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ShawnG
ShawnG MegaDork
6/30/24 3:02 p.m.

In reply to Recon1342 :

Center ports are siamesed and exit the side of block between the cylinders.

End ports wrap around the cylinder front or back and exit the side of the block front and back.

That's why they overheat when you try to make any sort of power with them.

Chevrolet's I6 and literally everyone else's V8 were far better designs.

The Cad / Lasalle and Lincoln V8s, Cad V16, Packard V12, all bring the exhaust out through the valley instead of routing it through the block and the water jacket.

The Ford V8 and later Lincoln V12 share the same design flaws.

The Ford Flathead is cheap, that's about all it has going for it.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/30/24 4:23 p.m.

In reply to ShawnG :

I thought the Caddy V12 and V16 had all of the ports on the outside of the engine.  Maybe I am thinking of a Caddy competitor.  They were not flathead engines.

 

The engine that I am thinking of used updraft carburetors.  No worries about poor atomization with an updraft, any big blobs fall out of suspension, anything that gets into the engine is either vapor or finely atomized.  Great for something that has to run smoothly.

Plus it allowed the hood to be lower.

 

Edit:  Definitely Cadillac.

ShawnG
ShawnG MegaDork
6/30/24 4:52 p.m.

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

You're correct, I had a brain fart there.

I've only worked on one V16 Cadillac. The Johnson carbs have a parallelogram float linkage that likes to hang up and flood if you don't get it just right.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/30/24 5:27 p.m.

I've only read about them in books, myself smiley. But I did get to play around with a very clean '40 Cadillac, mainly its cooling system.  I still get PTSD about trying to shift it into Reverse.  Very tricky on the prewar Hydra-Matic trans, you have to go forward slightly and then into Reverse or it will gear clash.  I managed to get it into gear maybe one in ten attempts.

Recon1342
Recon1342 UltraDork
6/30/24 7:16 p.m.

In reply to ShawnG :

Today I Learned. 
 

Cool!!!

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
7/14/24 12:30 p.m.

I know, I know, but these things take a while.  If you've ever removed a line or cable and said " I'll remember where that goes", you will just nod.

The fuel line is now in and is wrapped in a heat resistant cover; heat from the manifolds promote vapor lock.

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
7/18/24 3:10 p.m.

BTW, if you find yourself in a similar situation and want "period correct" wire type hose clamps, an auto supply house charges and arm and a leg.  Amazon has stainless ones; $8 for 5.

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
7/24/24 9:24 a.m.

I have concerns.

The engine is wired, plumped and vacuum attached.  Charge up the 6V battery, rechecked all the connections, key on, hit the starter, it rolled over.  That;s all I wanted to hear.

Took a break from that while connecting the 3 heater cores in the car.  Fun stuff.  Yesterday I hit it again, nuttin'.  It groaned, that's it.  At assembly, everything was lubed up with white grease and you could turn it over by turning the pulley by hand, so it's not locked.  

Should I lay 12V to the starter (they spin wicked fast), just to get the 7 quarts of oil up and around.

.... or am I just a nervous new Mom?

zordak
zordak HalfDork
7/24/24 9:52 a.m.

First I would check the battery voltage. Second make sure you can turn the engine over by hand. My experience an engine with the proper clearances should turn over with just a 1/2" drive ratchet. 

golfduke
golfduke Dork
7/24/24 10:06 a.m.

So exciting!!!  this is such a neat project. 

 

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
7/24/24 11:39 a.m.

Battery shows 6V, does (did) crank by hand, but with pulleys etc. a ratchet may be required.  Plugs are out, so maybe what I'm hearing is the thing turn over, but because it's so free it sounds strange.  Dunno.  One the drive shaft is in and everything looks good, I'll either hop it some some 12V or bump start it.

Film at 11:00.....

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
7/24/24 11:40 a.m.

BTW: I had a truck converted from 6 to 12Volt.  Big resistor for the 6V gages,  but the 6V starter with 12V spun at double time!

ShawnG
ShawnG MegaDork
7/24/24 5:21 p.m.

If this still uses the lever / button type starter switch, mounted on the side of the starter, pull it off and have a look at the contacts. 

I've had them burn and carbon up to the point that they stop working.

Remember, 6v system. Half the voltage but double the current. Those contacts are carrying a lot. 

Make sure all your battery cables and such are up to the task. Light,  12v cables won't cut it.

ShawnG
ShawnG MegaDork
7/24/24 6:27 p.m.

And turn those rad hoses so you can't see the stripe on the side of them. Ick. cheeky 

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