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akylekoz
akylekoz SuperDork
1/3/22 9:34 a.m.

Received a Kobalt 1/2” impact as a gift for a teaching moment while producing some custom hubs.  I love it, never use the air anymore.

One thing no one mentioned was part numbers.  I have a thirty year old Dewalt set.  Looks just like the five piece set on sale every holiday.  The difference is my drill has an aluminum body, three speeds and is super tough.  There are different grades of Dewalt tools, home grade and work grade.  Other brands probably do too, do your homework.

Speaking of batteries, I was about to get the 18v to 20v adapter kit with two batteries and a charger last year.  At Lowe’s looking for it and they had a great deal on two 18v batteries.  That’s what I have now.  I fit wasn’t for how strong my old set is I would switch to the red tools.

I will say Real Dewalt batteries last years longer that having them rebuilt by batteries R us.

kevinatfms
kevinatfms GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
1/3/22 1:54 p.m.
RevRico said:

In reply to kevinatfms :

Can you swap them at the store now, or do you still have to take them to an "authorized service center"?

The lifetime warranty got me interested, and made me a customer, until I tried to use it and needed to make multiple trips to the middle of nowhere to get my tools sent out to be fixed then picked up again. If they've changed that so you can swap them at Depot now, or mail them in, I may need to revisit rigid. 

 

I've been more or less happy with Bauer since I switched off rigid. With the availability of inexpensive battery adapters, I think brands matter less now than ever before.

I called the support line and stated that i dont have the time to go to an "authorized service center" due to work...etc. Lady told me to send a video to their email w/ my claim number. They called back a day or so later and gave me a shipping number for the brand new tool/battery. I asked if i needed to send the old one back in and they said no.

The one battery i recycled but the impact i still have. It works but has this thing where the "auto" torque sensor goes off and stops the impact if the wind hits it. Makes it nearly useless to actually torque something but can be used once in a while for smaller things and to remove stuff(if it isnt torqued over 80ft-lbs or so).

RevRico
RevRico UltimaDork
1/3/22 2:20 p.m.

In reply to kevinatfms :

That's really really good to know. 

rob_lewis
rob_lewis UltraDork
1/3/22 2:59 p.m.

20 years ago, I started with the Craftsman 18v line of cordless tools.  Impact, drill, circular saw, sawzall, etc.  After Sears went out of business, started replacing them with Ryobi stuff.  I'm a general hobbyist/mechanic and never had an issue with them. 

This year, however, I wanted a small impact for use around a car so I got the 3/8" impact and drill Milwaukee M12.  Didn't need the drill, but the kit was like $20 more than just the impact tool with no battery or charger.  So far, I'm impressed at how well it works.

My son works the lube line at a dealership and was the one that bought me the Milwaukee stuff.  He said he wanted one of the 3/8" ratchets for work, so I went to get him one for Christmas. Same thing as with my impact, the kit with the ratchet, a drill, the impact I have, the hackzall, a flashlight, two batteries and a charger was $20 more than just the ratchet tool by itself.  So, he left me with the flashlight and hackzall and took the rest. 

Looks like I'm moving towards Milwaukee stuff now.  I really prefer just ONE battery system, but the Ryobi stuff didn't have a small form factor like the M12 system.  I'll probably still buy the Ryobi stuff because it's cheaper and I have a bunch of batteries and chargers and keep the Milwaukee tools to the things Ryobi just doesn't make.  Like the small impact.

We were changing axle seals on his Fit and he brought over his air impact and his cordless Matco.  I didn't think the cordless would work on the axle nuts and it zipped them off like butta.  Now I want a big cordless impact for myself (I'm NOT paying tool truck prices) because my Ryobi 1/2" just doesn't have the torque to pop off lug nuts.  If I went Milwaukee, it'd be a third battery system with the M18, so I'm thinking about the HF stuff just because it's so much cheaper for similar power. 

-Rob

Boost_Crazy
Boost_Crazy Dork
1/3/22 11:21 p.m.

In reply to Fueled by Caffeine :

Keith Tanner 
Any tool that does real work around here either has a cord or an air chuck on it, though :)

Yes this is my thoughts as well. As a homeowner I'm cool dragging a cord around.  I use these tools maybe once a month.
 

But it sure seems like everyone with the red or yellow boxes spends a lot of time justifying their purchase r/tools I'm looking at you. 
 

For me, it's the complete opposite- I'd rather have cordless tools at home when doing quick jobs. I don't mind plugging in or grabbing air working in the garage on a big project. But for a small job out in the yard or across the house, I could have been done by the time I deal with extension cords or powering up the compressor. Last year my wife bought me a Milwaukee leaf blower. I appreciated the thought, but I didn't need it. I already had a corded one, that I rarely used. Then I tried it, and had an epiphany. I rarely used the corded one because of the cord. I use the cordless one all the time. I just bought the M18 hedge trimmer. It will probably pay for itself in extension cords over it's life, and my yard will look nicer. 
 

I don't get the yellow/red hate, or why you would think anyone has to justify buying them. They are a bit more expensive, but they are also contractor grade tools. Tools are consumables to many contractors, and these are made to deal with the abuse. Treat your tools nicely and don't use them 8 hrs a day, 5 days a week, and the other brands should serve you well. It's nice to have choices. 
 

One of my new favorite cordless tools is my M18 shop vac. Rarely do I need the capacity of my large corded vac, and I just need to clean up a quick mess or vacuum out the car. This thing is awesome...

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
1/4/22 9:11 a.m.

In reply to Boost_Crazy :

my words were a little impercise. I was trying to have a fun commentary on Reddit.com/r/tools.   Geez. Those guys. 
 

but buy whatever you want man. I wanted the red tools but man just can't justify having that much money tied up in inventory that I don't use more than once or twice a month.  I'd rather have the cash earning interest. 

pinchvalve (Forum Supporter)
pinchvalve (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/4/22 9:58 a.m.

It bears repeating, cordless vacuums are so freaking handy. The Milwaukee one is pretty nice because of the flat top, I love my Makita, I bought my father a Ryobi one for XMas and it worked very well, even WalMart has one that performed as well as the others. 

 

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
1/4/22 10:56 a.m.

The hart tools are basically ryobi.  I really wanted to get that set. My 10% employee discount also was pushing me that way, but the lifetime service agreement of rigid made the move. 

ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter)
ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter) HalfDork
1/4/22 11:00 a.m.

The Makita 18v drill I bought finally died after 20 years of hard abuse.  The other 20+ Makita 18v tools I own are all working like brand new, and every battery I've ever bought still works.  Don't know that I could give a stronger testimonial than that.  

gearheadmb
gearheadmb UltraDork
1/4/22 1:53 p.m.

How do we feel about the cheaper dewalt line? Any first hand experience here? I dont use many cordless tools so I'm not too concerned about how extensive the tool catalog is, I just want a new drill and maybe an impact driver, and dont want to pay Milwaukee prices.

kellym
kellym New Reader
1/4/22 8:44 p.m.

Makita 18V fan here.  Have 10+ different tools and many batteries.  The trick is to find their special package around the holidays with 4 5A  batteries and a tool for $250 ish - batteries alone are worth more than that along with the double charger. 

I even converted by Toro electric mower to 36V (two Makita 18V) batteries using 3D printed adapters when the mowers batteries died.  

 

ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter)
ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter) HalfDork
1/5/22 4:52 p.m.
kellym said:

Makita 18V fan here.  Have 10+ different tools and many batteries.  The trick is to find their special package around the holidays with 4 5A  batteries and a tool for $250 ish - batteries alone are worth more than that along with the double charger. 

I even converted by Toro electric mower to 36V (two Makita 18V) batteries using 3D printed adapters when the mowers batteries died.  

 

I've never seen this package with the 4 batteries, and I can't find it listed anywhere.  Do you know the part number?  The 5.0 mAh batteries have gotten crazy expensive since I've been in their tool ecosystem, that's for sure.

350z247
350z247 Reader
1/5/22 9:34 p.m.

In reply to Boost_Crazy :

Agreed. I no longer see any value in air or corded tools outside of a professional shop. I sold my compressor and bought some batteries with the cash.

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