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pinchvalve (Forum Supporter)
pinchvalve (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/9/22 5:18 p.m.

VERY biased here, but the Sienna SE > Odyssey by a mile. Designed by an autocrosser, this van kills the daily family hauling duties and luxury car spots very well, and drives like a sports sedan. Kinda. But seriously, it has sports steering and suspension that make it great to drive.  

The CTR is amazing and if you can go that route, do it. I have driven the Veloster N and it is smiles for miles, highly recommend. Allow me to also suggest the Fiesta ST as well, they are fun to drive and they respond well to mods if you are interested in building something. 

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