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oldtin
oldtin HalfDork
9/8/10 10:21 a.m.
TJ wrote: A BMW 2002 isn't too much over 2,000#. I'm guessing under 2,500# easily. Easy daily driver and fun car. Obligatory hotlinked picture:

2150# for 1968-1973 - a couple of tweaks and you could be under 2000#. Comfortable, can hang with traffic. Lots of upgrade/engine swaps for uber hoonage. I've DD'd several in the past. Will probably get another soon.

m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/8/10 11:24 a.m.

I think the X1/9 (fuel injected) is around 2100lbs. Heavy for it's size, but very fun.

It made a great daily, I miss it alot.

bravenrace
bravenrace Dork
9/8/10 11:35 a.m.

It's difficult to search for 2002's on craig's list...

poopshovel
poopshovel SuperDork
9/8/10 11:38 a.m.

My 87 civic si is a tick over 2k, but fun, reliable, and has 4 seats and decent storage capacity (compared to the crx.) However, though not as light as the civic (~2,500lbs.,) my 330,000 mile DD 91 Integra is more powerful, more comfortable, gets better fuel economy, and I can fit 10' long sticks of moulding in it with the hatch closed. The RS, though harder to find, was quite a bit lighter than other models.

racerdave600
racerdave600 HalfDork
9/8/10 12:16 p.m.
ditchdigger wrote: A series 2 Fiat 850 coupe hovers just in the 1600lb area. The Defroster sucks but the heater system will bake you in the winter. Sedans are in the 1400's It might be rough to daily a 600 but those are around 1250lbs

I drove a 600D just like the one pictured for a while as a daily. I had 8 cars at the time, 5 Alfas and 3 Fiats, and it was the only one I had running. It always ran and got close to 60mpg. However, and it is a big however, if it was going to rain or storm, you needed to stay home. A good gust of wind could move it over several lanes. If you didn't have that many lanes, you'd better hope there was something soft when the pavement ended, as you were going somewhere!

TJ
TJ SuperDork
9/8/10 12:36 p.m.
bravenrace wrote: It's difficult to search for 2002's on craig's list...

Agree unless you want to sift through a bunch of ads for 2002 BMW's instead of BMW 2002's.....but I found mine via craigslist.

fast_eddie_72
fast_eddie_72 Reader
9/8/10 12:40 p.m.
ReverendDexter wrote: First gen Celicas are a little heavier than you're thinking, somewhere between 2500 and 2800 depending on year and bodystyle.

... and no lighter than the MkII or MkIII Celica. My '84 ST weighs 2400 lbs.

Plenty of older cars- Opel, Ford Capris, Pintos. Toyota Starlet from the 80s is light.

Dpvog
Dpvog Reader
9/8/10 12:45 p.m.
dj5000000 wrote: With that said, what are some cars on the lighter side of 2,000 lbs that would not necessarily make a bad daily driver? Miata (of course!) AE86 MKI MR2 First Gen Celica FB, FC, FD RX7 Mitsubishi Starion ESI-r in the FWD camp: CRX 80's Civic... Help me out here!

I could be wrong, but I think all of those (except the CRX) are over 2000 lbs. -Doug

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/8/10 1:10 p.m.

AE92s like the one in my avatar weigh 2100-2400lbs depending on the model. They're totally DDable and with coilovers they're very good autocross cars. They're good on gas too. Downsides are: FWD, rare, cramped engine bay.

oldtin
oldtin HalfDork
9/8/10 1:17 p.m.
TJ wrote:
bravenrace wrote: It's difficult to search for 2002's on craig's list...
Agree unless you want to sift through a bunch of ads for 2002 BMW's instead of BMW 2002's.....but I found mine via craigslist.

I use craiglook and use the price filter just knocks out all but the cheaper newer bmws but might exclude the top end of the old cars. Also 2002faq.com - seems like a buyers market these days

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/8/10 1:21 p.m.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: I think I could DD an Elise if I could clearance the spoiler just enough to clear most speed bumps.

A guy down here DDs an Elise, and the road conditions are awful...and his commute goes through a lot of flood-prone roads too.

neckromacr
neckromacr Reader
9/8/10 1:26 p.m.
ditchdigger wrote:
integraguy wrote: If you could find one, a Fiesta is quite light, tho not sure it would make for a good daily driver. Same for a VW Scirocco....there was one on the Memphis CL just 1 or 2 weeks ago.
Slippery slope for sciroccos. First gen nice and light. under 2k for most early ones Second gen got up to 2400lbs And with the extra body kit and other bits the 16V cars were in the 2600lb range.

Hu? My '88 Scirocco 16v is just north of 2300. Thats mostly stock, not stripping anything out.

bravenrace
bravenrace Dork
9/8/10 1:27 p.m.
oldtin wrote:
TJ wrote:
bravenrace wrote: It's difficult to search for 2002's on craig's list...
Agree unless you want to sift through a bunch of ads for 2002 BMW's instead of BMW 2002's.....but I found mine via craigslist.
I use craiglook and use the price filter just knocks out all but the cheaper newer bmws but might exclude the top end of the old cars. Also 2002faq.com - seems like a buyers market these days

There's one for sale just down the road from me. It looks like a barn find, and is missing all the exterior trim and much of the interior. It has just a little rust, and minilite wheels. It actually looks like that cream colored one above except neglected for 20 or so years. I haven't called the guy because I imagine he wants a relative fortune for it, but maybe one of these days...

benzbaron
benzbaron HalfDork
9/8/10 2:49 p.m.

A trick when searching for bmw 02's is to search for "bmw 1600." Many people selling classic Bmw 2002 will put the 1600 reference in there.

paanta
paanta New Reader
9/8/10 3:09 p.m.

Smart Fortwo? ~1600lbs of absolutely AWFUL.

ahutson03
ahutson03 New Reader
9/8/10 4:03 p.m.

I daily drive my Austin Cooper S, It's definitely sub1500 lbs.

Howell914
Howell914 New Reader
9/8/10 4:22 p.m.

Porsche 914 2000 lbs aprox. Two trunks.

Keith
Keith GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/8/10 5:32 p.m.

My classic Mini is 1450. I couldn't believe it when I first put it on the scales. And with the new brake and wheel combo, it's lighter now. But I don't drive it daily. I don't drive any one car daily.

paul
paul Reader
9/8/10 5:41 p.m.

Saturn SC/SL2's are around 2,450 stock...
modern, safe, cheap, fairly good aftermarket support, etc

dj5000000
dj5000000 New Reader
9/8/10 10:50 p.m.
zomby woof wrote: You forgot what is probably the lightest of all the modern-ish cars.

Which is?

bravenrace wrote: In reply to dj5000000: TVR 2500M's are right around 2k, and the Vixen is under 2k. Not sure how good of a dd it would be, but it would be as good better than a Spitfire.

This is the type of stuff I had no idea about. Beautiful cars but this is the only car I could find within 250miles in orlando... http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/1908208615.html

I'm just trying to brainstorm a featherweight chassis with usable interior space and hopefully an enjoyable motor inside. Most the cars I've really enjoyed have been well over 2,500lbs. I really enjoyed the MKI MR2 so I'm looking hard at the corollas now with the same motor and a more usable hatch with a backseat to boot sounds like the best case scenario.

daytonaer
daytonaer Reader
9/9/10 12:19 a.m.

Toyota Echo.

We had a 2001 that weighed in around 2100lbs. Ours was a 4 door auto, apparently the manual transmission was 70 or so lbs lighter but I think the 2 door weighed about the same. Ours had A/C too, and that was optional. Every thing else was manual (windows locks etc)

There is allot of hate for that car out there but it was a featherweight. 40+ mpg's daily... Did not die gracefully in an "accident" when ours got rear-ended.

I want another, or a geo, or a festiva or a justy.

MrBenjamonkey
MrBenjamonkey Reader
9/9/10 1:14 a.m.

The Peel P50

zomby woof
zomby woof Dork
9/9/10 7:41 a.m.
dj5000000 wrote:
zomby woof wrote: You forgot what is probably the lightest of all the modern-ish cars.
Which is?

Suzuki Swift.

Get a GT if you want to have fun.

zomby woof
zomby woof Dork
9/9/10 7:44 a.m.
daytonaer wrote: Toyota Echo. We had a 2001 that weighed in around 2100lbs. Ours was a 4 door auto, apparently the manual transmission was 70 or so lbs lighter but I think the 2 door weighed about the same. Ours had A/C too, and that was optional. Every thing else was manual (windows locks etc) There is allot of hate for that car out there but it was a featherweight. 40+ mpg's daily... Did not die gracefully in an "accident" when ours got rear-ended. I want another, or a geo, or a festiva or a justy.

I was going to mention it, but you didn't get them. When we first got the Hatch version, I test thrashed one. It wasn't horrible, and I looked it up, it was just about 2000 lbs. Toyota claims 2300 lbs for the Yaris hatch

EDIT: just looked it up. 1920 lbs for the Echo hatch.

oldopelguy
oldopelguy Dork
9/9/10 8:02 a.m.

Smaller 1.1L Opel Kadett is 1700#, 1.9L version right shy of 2k#. Opel GT or Manta closer to 2400#. Manta makes up for the bit more weight with awesome handling though.

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