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kreb
kreb GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/10/12 9:12 a.m.

http://outlaw-vintage-racing.blogspot.com/p/nasa-se-presents-outlaw-v-intage-racing.html

I think that it's a hell of an idea. Class by power-to-weight ratio. All you need is a racing license, a properly safe, pre-1979 car and you're good to go!

Joe Gearin
Joe Gearin Associate Publisher
8/10/12 9:14 a.m.

The guys at NASA-SE are great folks too! This looks like a fun new idea.

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
8/10/12 10:02 a.m.

This ought to bring some awesome cars back to the track. Winning is probably going to be expensive though.

alfadriver
alfadriver PowerDork
8/10/12 10:06 a.m.

Interesting idea- what are the classes available?

One more reason I should get off my rear and get my '74 up and running correctly.

JohnyHachi6
JohnyHachi6 Reader
8/10/12 11:35 a.m.

Oh, hellz yeah. I was just wishing someone would come up with something like this.

Keith
Keith GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/10/12 12:39 p.m.

Other NASA classes rely on dyno testing. Makes sense, none of these cars are making original power.

That should be fun. I'd think light weight and small power would still be the winner, especially in a low-drag body.

alex
alex UltraDork
8/10/12 3:01 p.m.

Oh man, I think my dad's '60 Catalina (former circle tracker, caged/tubular front subframe) just found a class to race in!

Where does NASA-SE run?

JohnyHachi6
JohnyHachi6 Reader
8/10/12 3:20 p.m.

The 2012 events were listed on the bottom of the link from the OP:

Race 01. 02/11/2012 - Carolina (CMP)
Race 02. 03/09/2012 - Road Atlanta (RA)
Race 03. 04/14/2012 - Roebling Road (RR)
Race 04. 05/19/2012 - Carolina (CMP)
Race 05. 06/15/2012 - Road Atlanta (RA)
Race 06. 07/07/2012 - Charlotte (CMS)
Race 07. 08/04/2012 - Road Atlanta (RA)
Race 08. 10/20/2012 - Atlanta (AMP)
Race 09. 11/10/2012 - Carolina (CMP)
Race 10. 11/30/2012 - Road Atlanta (RA)

plance1
plance1 Dork
8/10/12 3:25 p.m.

Id like to see nascar do this, bring back real cars and race them

Argo1
Argo1 GRM+ Memberand Reader
8/10/12 3:44 p.m.

Fantastic idea. Another place for the Z to run!

alex
alex UltraDork
8/10/12 3:50 p.m.

Okay who do I start to cajole to get this brought to the Midwest?

vwcorvette
vwcorvette GRM+ Memberand Dork
8/10/12 3:50 p.m.

Alfa GTA?

Plus this:

Keith
Keith GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/10/12 4:33 p.m.

I'm digging this more and more as I think about it, both from a competitor and a spectator standpoint. Of course, there's nothing stopping me in the "rules" from building a vintage car with modern suspension and engine in it, but I do like the way the power/weight rules will level the playing field no matter what's underhood.

alex
alex UltraDork
8/10/12 4:42 p.m.

Letter written to NASA Midwest! If any of you other folks want to chime in with an email (even if you're not from around here, I won't tell), I'd appreciate it.

Greg Voth
Greg Voth Dork
8/10/12 4:44 p.m.

This gives me pretty awesome thoughts about what do do with the 79 RX-7 Lemon's car. Already has a 5.0/T-5 in it. Looks like it would be pretty easy transition into this.

If I wanted to get more serious reliable fuel injected fun I could drop in a 4.8 or 5.3 backed by a T-10 on a FC subframe and some wide tires. Could be fun.

kreb
kreb GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/10/12 4:52 p.m.

At first glance, the specifications may be too loose for really close racing. But the class does two things really well - it presents a venue for old, popular cars to get back on the track, and it continues the shift towards fun over hard-bit, big bucks competition. If you are someone who wants to have fun without worrying that the scutineer will pick up your illegal muffler; or know that no matter how hard you try, you'll never have the money or talent to win a spec class; or like the spirit of Lemons, but need something more serious and fast..... then this may be for you.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic UltimaDork
8/10/12 5:56 p.m.

Sweet. It will give me one more place to race my Spitfire.

viking
viking New Reader
8/10/12 6:48 p.m.

In reply to alex: Go for it, this the best thing I have heard of in a long time----

shadetree30
shadetree30 Reader
8/10/12 7:01 p.m.

Am I the only one who was scared that some government entity was trying to make vintage racing illegal?

kreb
kreb GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/10/12 7:45 p.m.
shadetree30 wrote: Am I the only one who was scared that some government entity was trying to make vintage racing illegal?

Where did that come from? My first response is to figure you for a tin-foil-hat-wearer, but then there's the smiley face?

Rad_Capz
Rad_Capz Reader
8/10/12 8:58 p.m.

I really like the idea of this type of racing. I just do the NASA HPDE thing in my 70 Firebird occasionally but I'd consider building a (less pretty) car for this knowing I'd never try to be competitive and can build it however I feel like and can afford. Just go out and blast around trying to improve against cars that are about the same speed.

JohnyHachi6
JohnyHachi6 HalfDork
8/10/12 9:10 p.m.

In reply to shadetree30:

Haha, yeah I thought the same thing for a split second. "Who wants to outlaw vintage racing?!"

ScottRA21
ScottRA21 Reader
8/11/12 4:31 a.m.
JohnyHachi6 wrote: In reply to shadetree30: Haha, yeah I thought the same thing for a split second. "Who wants to outlaw vintage racing?!"

Those crazies who think that any modification from stock is an abomination, and those who see these beautiful classics being destroyed, instead of sitting in a museum where they belong in all their stock, unmodified splendor!

T.J.
T.J. PowerDork
8/11/12 7:16 a.m.

Too bad this will not get TV coverage.

Are the under 2.5L trans am type cars invited as well?

shadetree30
shadetree30 Reader
8/11/12 9:14 a.m.
kreb wrote:
shadetree30 wrote: Am I the only one who was scared that some government entity was trying to make vintage racing illegal?
Where did that come from? My first response is to figure you for a tin-foil-hat-wearer, but then there's the smiley face?

If you look at the thread title quickly...

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