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pinchvalve (Forum Supporter)
pinchvalve (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/17/22 11:23 a.m.

What if they all melt down and in the bottom of the hull we find one massive car with 4184 cylinders and 244 wheels and it's awesome? 

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/17/22 11:27 a.m.
pinchvalve (Forum Supporter) said:

What if they all melt down and in the bottom of the hull we find one massive car with 4184 cylinders and 244 wheels and it's awesome? 

Gojira! 

Woody (Forum Supportum)
Woody (Forum Supportum) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/17/22 11:53 a.m.

 

 

Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter)
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
2/17/22 1:22 p.m.

Matt Farah (automotive journalist, podcaster, and Youtuber) had ordered a Boxster 8 months ago. Turns out, it was on that ship.

golfduke
golfduke Dork
2/17/22 1:34 p.m.

I thought only British cars contained the Magic Smoke...? 

 

<ducks>

 

rslifkin
rslifkin UberDork
2/17/22 1:41 p.m.
golfduke said:

I thought only British cars contained the Magic Smoke...? 

 

<ducks>

They all contain it, the British ones just leak more often

californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia UltraDork
2/17/22 1:44 p.m.

since we will be getting :"boatloads" of EVs from Europe in the future , 

Is there anyway  to disconnect the EV battery pack to make if safer ?

Or  do "hotspots" start in the EV battery pack  and thats what starts the fire ?

earlybroncoguy1
earlybroncoguy1 Reader
2/17/22 4:57 p.m.

At least they weren't Broncos.

SKJSS (formerly Klayfish)
SKJSS (formerly Klayfish) PowerDork
2/17/22 5:19 p.m.
earlybroncoguy1 said:

At least they weren't Broncos.

Darn shame, it would have been far better if they were

ccrunner
ccrunner New Reader
2/17/22 6:16 p.m.

Watch Bring a Trailer in a few weeks for a mound of burned, rusty Porsche 'remnants' to auction for an obscene amount of $$ for the surviving VIN plate laugh 

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
2/17/22 6:47 p.m.

It is very much in the middle of the Atlantic.  Pretty close to the Azores, it is showing it at 2 knots (barely moving, maybe drifting?).  It's also showing a heading of 94 deg, so heading back to Europe?  There is a tug shown about 70 miles to the south east heading towards it.  This data appears to be almost a day old, so the tug is certainly there by now.

RX Reven'
RX Reven' GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
2/17/22 6:51 p.m.
californiamilleghia said:

since we will be getting :"boatloads" of EVs from Europe in the future , 

Is there anyway  to disconnect the EV battery pack to make if safer ?

Or  do "hotspots" start in the EV battery pack  and thats what starts the fire ?

Both.

Discharging at too great of rate can result in fire but also dendrite formation can cause a short so even when disconnected you could get excessive internal flow resulting in a fire.

In batteries, a metal reveals its dual personality | MIT News |  Massachusetts Institute of TechnologyI

I'm reminded of that Titanic Meme we had the other day...

"We here at Porsche understand our customers great love for the simplicity of aircooled engines...please be assured that those cooling systems siting on the bottom of the ocean will be completely full of liquid 100's of years from now". 

ronniejay
ronniejay New Reader
2/17/22 10:00 p.m.

 

Is VW Porsche having a FIRE SALE?

triumph7
triumph7 HalfDork
2/17/22 11:21 p.m.
californiamilleghia said:

since we will be getting :"boatloads" of EVs from Europe in the future , 

Is there anyway  to disconnect the EV battery pack to make if safer ?

Or  do "hotspots" start in the EV battery pack  and thats what starts the fire ?

The battery pack(s) typically have contactors at both ends of the pack(s) and, sometimes, an emergency disconnect in the middle.

Individual cells can catch fire and it doesn't take much for a chain reaction.  A few years ago I was at "The Battery Show" in Novi.  Several of the vendors were pushing cell separators that would prevent adjacent cells from catching fire... we laughed because we used LiFePo4 cells that are MUCH safer than Lithium Ion.

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
2/17/22 11:54 p.m.
yupididit said:

Anyone die?

Crew members are safe.

preach (dudeist priest)
preach (dudeist priest) GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/18/22 12:57 a.m.

Cover for the next Hot VW magazine.

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
2/18/22 8:24 a.m.

If all the citizenry of the Azores are driving new Porsches next year, it was a set up.  =~ 0

 

Adrian_Thompson (Forum Supporter)
Adrian_Thompson (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
2/18/22 11:48 a.m.

All that valuable smoke.  Quick, collect it, Bottle is and PROFIT!!

Wally (Forum Supporter)
Wally (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/18/22 11:54 a.m.

bentwrench
bentwrench UltraDork
2/18/22 12:04 p.m.
ccrunner said:

Watch Bring a Trailer in a few weeks for a mound of burned, rusty Porsche 'remnants' to auction for an obscene amount of $$ for the surviving VIN plate laugh 

I doubt any of these will reach the market in car form.

No taxes or royalties have been paid on those vehicles. 

They will be returned to their basic components by dropping the whole car into a crusher.

I've done it with new Volvo's that came loose on the boat in a storm.

Captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
Captdownshift (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/18/22 12:19 p.m.

In reply to Wally (Forum Supporter) :

Lololol

Jay_W
Jay_W SuperDork
2/18/22 1:50 p.m.

Whelp, it's true, every machine can be a smoke machine if you operate it wrong enough

preach (dudeist priest)
preach (dudeist priest) GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/18/22 7:43 p.m.

Lithium-ion batteries in the electric cars on board have caught fire and the blaze requires specialist equipment to extinguish, captain Joao Mendes Cabecas of the port of Hortas said.

Not good.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/fire-on-cargo-ship-packed-with-porsches-and-vws-is-reportedly-fueled-by-ev-batteries/ar-AAU2C4c

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/18/22 8:42 p.m.

Meh, they're just new cars.  They still MAKE new cars.  The only people to cry are the insurance backers.

 

If it was a ship full of SWB 911s and A2 Golfs, then let's pour a 40. 

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
2/18/22 8:54 p.m.

Since the crew abandoned ship and it's in international waters, salvage rules may apply... assuming one can get out there before the tug that is supposedly on it's way to tow it back to Europe.

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