Datsun1500 wrote: Blah, blah, blah...
You forget "or the balance of the factory warranty." You would be correct if the part fails at 59,999 miles on the factory warranty. You get yet another 12/12 for that part ONLY. It sure seems to me that you haven't been in a deal where you replace a part at 10k and it fails at 24k and is still covered by the factory warranty because I sure have in my past.
Bobzilla wrote:Curmudgeon wrote: The warranty is either the remainder of the factory warranty or the replacement parts warrany, whichever affords the greater protection. For instance, if the car is 4 years old and has 85,000 miles on it, the 6/100 PT warranty will expire before the 3/36 replacement parts warranty. But the 3/36 warranty will go past the end of the PT warranty ON THE REPLACED PART ONLY! i.e if the engine is replaced it does not extend the warranty on the transmission. OTOH, if the part is replaced at 6 months/8k miles, the 6year/100k complete powertrain warranty is in effect on the replaced part even past the 3/36 replacement parts warranty.This.... which I've said over and over and over and over and over and over and....... Some men, you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week.... which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it.
In total agreement....
I've stop reading all the dribble, but it seems the problem is the SM and not the GM. I would bet if you showed the GM a new trans is in stock for 1600ish and tell him the SM told you there were none available, you would get a new trans.
poopshovel wrote:Slippery wrote: Wow, I cant believe the dealer is fighting you on a part that anyone can buy for around $1600 ...NICE! Is that from today?
This is my place: http://www.hondaacuraonline.com/oem-part/honda/transmission-assy-mt/20011-rp4-g72?search_str=20011-rp4
And I checked the IN to see how many were in the country. I'd screen cap that too if it wasnt for all them papers I had to sign and stuff.
Datsun1500 wrote: So if I buy his 2011 Fit as/is and buy the new transmission from a Honda dealer here, it's covered to 60K miles?
If the transmission is replaced under the warranty the new transmission is covered until the warranty expires or 12/20 whichever is greater.
If your Fit has 61,000 miles it is not covered under the original warranty but reverts to the 12/20 replacement part warranty.
If the dealerships screws up your unnecessary transmission service they talked you into and then try to avoid doing the right thing by the replacement being under the factory warranty, they are playing games and are so very liable for legal action.
Datsun1500 wrote: So if I buy his 2011 Fit as/is and buy the new transmission from a Honda dealer here, it's covered to 60K miles?
Are you claiming it warranty or OTC repairing it in your driveway?
Datsun1500 wrote: So if I buy his 2011 Fit as/is and buy the new transmission from a Honda dealer here, it's covered to 60K miles? Where is the "or remainder of factory warranty?" on Honda's site? Bob, Can you please post something from Honda that says a new transmission, not replaced under warranty, will be covered for more than 12K miles, so I can shut up about this? All I can find "in writing" is that a new transmission has a 12K warranty.
If factory warranty is 60k,then yes.
One merely needs to open their warranty booklet their new vehicle comes with. I'm not ordering in a $20 warranty book to scan it in at home to post up for you. "Remainder of factory warranty or 12/12". That's it.
We have warrantied parts well past the 12/12 that were replaced either by negligence or damage and done as CP. It's not often, but we do it. Normally we have to do it from another shop.
Datsun1500 wrote: In reply to aussiesmg: All of that is true. This is not being replaced under warranty. Honda corporate will tell you that as well. This is not a warranty repair, it is a repair from negligence, Honda is not replacing this transmission under warranty. It did not fail from a warranty issue....
But the dealer to save their own ass will write as warranty to not spend a dime. BTDT.
And it's any wonder why dealers are seen as scum....
Sorry to hear about your troubles with this dealerships service department so far. Along the same lines, I could not be more pleased with our 2011 Fit Sport for the 40k miles we've put on it so far, but stopped using the dealership for service after the first oil change due to the general lack of knowledge, lack of appropriate recommendations, and abundance of inappropriate recommendations from the people I interacted with. Luckily nothing so serious as your situation though. While I'd rather come across an honest and reasonable dealership to give my money to, the easiest way I can trust the work being done on it at this point is to simply do it myself...Sadly, this seems to be a recurring theme with the cars in my life.
Good luck! I really hope that you are able to resolve this with at least your full factory warranty intact.
Datsun1500 wrote:Ranger50 wrote:A local Honda dealer will install it. Not claiming warranty because this dealer can not claim it as warranty either. Are you saying Honda will allow this as a warranty claim even though it's due to negligence? If so, that changes it. Bob, Will Honda allow this to be a warranty claim even though the failure was due to the dealership's negligence?Datsun1500 wrote: So if I buy his 2011 Fit as/is and buy the new transmission from a Honda dealer here, it's covered to 60K miles?Are you claiming it warranty or OTC repairing it in your driveway?
I am not even going to bother to answer that for the 4000th time. If you can't figure it out by now, there is no point.
Fine. You win. He's completely unreasonable, and a used transmission is the perfect solution to every situation in every case always.
Done. Poop, if you need any help I'm glad to help, just send me a message.
In reply to Bobzilla:
You kinda get the feeling Datsun is another forum with Stage 2 license plate bulbs, huh? 
Datsun1500 wrote:Ranger50 wrote:A local Honda dealer will install it. Not claiming warranty because this dealer can not claim it as warranty either. Are you saying Honda will allow this as a warranty claim even though it's due to negligence? If so, that changes it. Bob, Will Honda allow this to be a warranty claim even though the failure was due to negligence?Datsun1500 wrote: So if I buy his 2011 Fit as/is and buy the new transmission from a Honda dealer here, it's covered to 60K miles?Are you claiming it warranty or OTC repairing it in your driveway?
The pen is mightier then the sword.... Especially when specific details are left out. Again, BTDT as the SM demanded it.
Javelin wrote: In reply to Bobzilla: You kinda get the feeling Datsun is another forum with Stage 2 license plate bulbs, huh?
That too..... I am wondering if his other screenname is Nodule.
In reply to Datsun1500:
Did we ever finally get him banned? IDK if I've ever seen so many "collapsed by community" posts made by one person on here. 
The problem I see is that I will bet the original trans has a vin tag or stamp on it
In reply to Datsun1500:
ROFL But nobody has said "Choke on a bag of dicks" in a derogatory meaning yet.....so it can't be that bad. 
yamaha wrote: In reply to Datsun1500: Did we ever finally get him banned? IDK if I've ever seen so many "collapsed by community" posts made by one person on here.
Vin tag, no. Serial number, yes. It's important on the auto trans because they track the numbers for the reman process. Not as important on the manual trans.
yamaha wrote: In reply to Datsun1500: ROFL But nobody has said "Choke on a bag of dicks" in a derogatory meaning yet.....so it can't be that bad.
Go choke on a bag of dicks.
Poop:
"We filled the trans back up with fluid and drove it around, and it only made noise in 5th gear. According to Honda, all we're required to replace is 5th gear. Even if the car had 500 miles and came from the factory with a loose plug, that's all Honda would warranty - 5th gear replacement."
The main stack bearings would be toast, if it shifted hard syncros could be worn, and the spider gears would be seized into a locker. The new transmission is the way to go.
I wish I could see both points of view on this, but I really don't. I can only see that you should get a completely new transmission.
Dealers will do anything and everything to get out of paying money into things. It's only when you force them into a corner that they will finally cough up. They will tell you all manner of lies to get you to pay them more dough and to cough up less of their own. This goes on from the sales process right into the service process. From what I can see, this is what is going on now. Keep pressing for what you should get, which is a new transmission.
Harvey wrote: I wish I could see both points of view on this, but I really don't. I can only see that you should get a completely new transmission. SOME Dealers will do anything and everything to get out of paying money into things. It's only when you force them into a corner that they will finally cough up. They will tell you all manner of lies to get you to pay them more dough and to cough up less of their own. This goes on from the sales process right into the service process. From what I can see, this is what is going on now. Keep pressing for what you should get, which is a new transmission.
FTFY. We're not all like that. I wouldn't still be here if this one was that way.
oh noes...this happen.
nao thred is being closed soone
Datsun1500 wrote: In reply to aussiesmg: All of that is true. This is not being replaced under warranty. Honda corporate will tell you that as well. This is not a warranty repair, it is a repair from negligence, Honda is not replacing this transmission under warranty. It did not fail from a warranty issue....
you may (or may not) be right ... but since the dealership did this to a perfectly good transmission ... it would seem to fall in a grey area between it being a warranty issue and a replacement part ... my thinking is that if Poop pushes this hard enough he'll end up getting a new transmission ... it's just going to take some time
Datsun1500 wrote: In reply to yamaha: I think he's finally gone. After this thread, I am probably close. I'm at least responsible for extra drinking...
I ain't madatcha, bruh.
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