Looking for a manual transaxle to mate to a turbo Dodge in the LONGITUDAL position. Gotta be tough.
I've got a 568, but I'd prefer to mount the motor front to back.
Adapter plate with a ....??
Thoughts?
Looking for a manual transaxle to mate to a turbo Dodge in the LONGITUDAL position. Gotta be tough.
I've got a 568, but I'd prefer to mount the motor front to back.
Adapter plate with a ....??
Thoughts?
By T3 I'm guessing you're talking about the DOHC 2.2L Lotus derived motor? Not the generic term used to describe the Garrett turbo chargers used on many turbo cars from the eighties.
Dakota 2.5L 4-cylinder bellhousing and a Toyota R154 5-speed (Supra, turbo and Toyota trucks)
Details previously covered here along with other options: http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/4-cylinder-dakotas-and-other-rwd-bellhousing-oopti/1018/page1/
Oh and if you want to a mid-engined RWD Lotus Hint, Hint then Kennedy sells adapters for VW/Porsche transaxles. If I have a Dakota bellhousing and find an Audi 2WD 5-speed then I'd build my own adapter and enjoy the cheap, but strong transaxle with the proper orientation.
Good luck!
Adapter plate plus...
That is how all of them will start.
I suggest:
Locating a PRV/Eagle Vision/Dodge Monaco/Delorean engine with manual transmission.
Look into an Audi 80 FWD manual trans plus a VW 1.8T engine (This would be awesome fast)
3.5L Dodge Intrepid w/ auto would make a lot of noise and go with a little loss in fun factor.
fiat22turbo wrote: By T3 I'm guessing you're talking about the DOHC 2.2L Lotus derived motor?
Yes, you are correct.
This piggyback's the previous information:
http://www.turbododge.com/forums/f68/
John Brown wrote: 3.5L Dodge Intrepid w/ auto would make a lot of noise and go with a little loss in fun factor.
this.
it's a 24v DOHC engine that makes 214 / 214 iirc, and it's longitudinal. too bad they're automatic-only.
I don't think the Toyota R154 5-speed will work. I need side CV outputs, not rear driveshaft outputs.
By the way there is a 1989 Eagle Premier listed with a 2.5L 4 cylinder.
Given the GM source used in some of the Eagle/AMC products that Eagle isn't likely to have the Chryco 2.5, but the GM 2.5 (same as is used in later Dakota's)
SVreX wrote: I don't think the Toyota R154 5-speed will work. I need side CV outputs, not rear driveshaft outputs.
In that case, an Audi 016 or one of its derivatives and an adapter plate is likely your cheapest source. The later 924, 924S and 944 used this transmission (mounted in the rear) as did various Audi's and VW's based on Audi chassis (Fox, Passat, etc)
Of course Kennedy sells a ready-made adapter for the VW/Porsche transaxle: http://www.kennedyeng.com/ too bad a Porsche transaxle is hard to find cheap. The early 924 turbo used a derivative of the 914/911 915 gearbox, but rebuilt units can be expensive.
Good luck,
John Brown wrote: Look into an Audi 80 FWD manual trans...
Is "80" a model year or a trans code?
Model. Same as the 016 F22T references I believe.
Any of the 1980-1990s Audi 80/90/100/1000/2000 non quattro trans can be made to work as well as Pre 1998 VW Passat.
I know of a TDi Manual from a 1996 Passat for a few hundred with shafts and most of what you need...
John Brown wrote: I know of a TDi Manual from a 1996 Passat for a few hundred with shafts and most of what you need...
Where?
Hey, its Adam! Nice meeting you at the challenge!
i had a modified 3.5 intrepid that ended up being quick enough to race stock 4.6 mustangs. The 3.5 is a very good engine to start a project with.
However, one thing i think you should consider IF you have the room is simply welding up the 568 diff and plugging the motor-side (pass side in a transverse car) axle opening and running a custom shaft from the 568 to your differential of choice.
Dodge actually made a concept vehicle for the jeep brand that used the fwd 2.5 and transaxle mounted longitudinally to power both axles on a 4wd vehicle that today we'd probly call a soft-roader or cute-ute.
The intrepid transaxle needs a controller that needs a lot of inputs and if you didnt want to get DEEP into how it works or spend a bunch of money you'd be limited to stock electronics.
Hi Adam!
Loved the Aries!!
I am probably lacking a bit of space for this solution.
SVreX wrote:John Brown wrote: I know of a TDi Manual from a 1996 Passat for a few hundred with shafts and most of what you need...Where?
41 yards north by northwest of where I am sitting.
Lansing, Mi
Vigo wrote: Hey, its Adam! Nice meeting you at the challenge! i had a modified 3.5 intrepid that ended up being quick enough to race stock 4.6 mustangs. The 3.5 is a very good engine to start a project with. However, one thing i think you should consider IF you have the room is simply welding up the 568 diff and plugging the motor-side (pass side in a transverse car) axle opening and running a custom shaft from the 568 to your differential of choice. Dodge actually made a concept vehicle for the jeep brand that used the fwd 2.5 and transaxle mounted longitudinally to power both axles on a 4wd vehicle that today we'd probly call a soft-roader or cute-ute. The intrepid transaxle needs a controller that needs a lot of inputs and if you didnt want to get DEEP into how it works or spend a bunch of money you'd be limited to stock electronics.
The only drawback to that idea is that you'd need as close to a 1:1 ratio differential as you can find. Others have thought of that before, but it really only works if you're building a rockcrawler since the gearing would be crazy low (in fact they did this on a Junkyward Wars episode back in the day, worked well, but top speed was about 30 or 40)
How about a VW VR6 mounted to an Audi trans?
http://www.034motorsport.com/product_info.php?cPath=28_85&products_id=665
Or an LS1?
http://www.gt40s.com/forum/gt40-tech-powertrain-transaxles/24018-ls1-audi-01e-adapter-complete.html
Or you could run an Audi engine/transmission. Like a 2.0t?
what i am thinking is a 1.8T out of a B5 Audi, has to be front wheel drive since the are longitudinal mounted trannys. Just take the whole unit and slap it in the back of the Europa. Arn't the Intrepid setups the same, as in Longitudinal front wheel drive?
The only drawback to that idea is that you'd need as close to a 1:1 ratio differential as you can find. Others have thought of that before,
That is very true, but i would think it would be possible considering how light and traction the thing would be to find a diff like that from a lighter, possibly electric or non-road going industrial vehicle. I cant say ive even looked into it, though.
found the linkage, just draw a sketch instead of buying it...
What about an audi transmission with a vw 16v? Since the audi bubble block 2.0 fits a fwd vw, im guessing the opposite would work as well. The TIII engine and 568 trans are worth enough money that they could be sold for more than enough to buy an audi tranny and vw engine.
If I don't use the Tlll and the 568 in this project, I'll put them into an R/T.
What cars other than the Porsches used the Audi 016?
fiat22turbo wrote: Given the GM source used in some of the Eagle/AMC products that Eagle isn't likely to have the Chryco 2.5, but the GM 2.5 (same as is used in later Dakota's)
Yep, it's the GM 2.5l, and it has the "metric" bell housing.
John Brown wrote: Model. Same as the 016 F22T references I believe. Any of the 1980-1990s Audi 80/90/100/1000/2000 non quattro trans can be made to work as well as Pre 1998 VW Passat. I know of a TDi Manual from a 1996 Passat for a few hundred with shafts and most of what you need...
Pre-'98 Passats were transverse. Why not the '98-up Passat/A4 transmission?
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