Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
10/5/21 11:14 a.m.
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On the list of what engines normally get swapped into old-school rides like mjlogan’s ’62 Ranchero, a 2.5-liter Duratec four-cylinder engine from a Ford Transit Connect probably isn’t very high on that list.

Why, then, chose a Duratec?

“My turbo LS drag racing buddies wer…

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randyracer
randyracer New Reader
10/5/21 9:16 p.m.

An LS fits anywhere.  But I love this.  And still Ford pedigree.

Junghole
Junghole SuperDork
10/5/21 11:58 p.m.

I love a MAZDA engine going into a classic Ford. 

alfadriver
alfadriver GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/6/21 6:03 a.m.
Junghole said:

I love a MAZDA engine going into a classic Ford. 

Given it's from a Transit, it's not a Mazda engine- the separation of the two companies happened well before it was put into the Transit Connect.  Even when it was shared, the development was shared.  But I know that it's more popular to bash US car companies....  

Kreb (Forum Supporter)
Kreb (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/6/21 9:52 a.m.

That's also a car that could benefit from a significant weight reduction on the front end. Even though the turbo added some weight back, it's still got to be a lot less than the cast iron lump. 

madmrak351
madmrak351 New Reader
10/6/21 11:20 a.m.

I have no problem with cross pollination ( out of brand swaps) even though this is not by my standards. If the swap improves the overall driving experience I would call it a success. Most modern drive lines in older vehicles do just that. My first car a 1962 falcon wagon could have sure used this swap. Unfortunately that was not an option in 1973.... 

Junghole
Junghole SuperDork
10/6/21 5:51 p.m.
alfadriver said:
Junghole said:

I love a MAZDA engine going into a classic Ford. 

Given it's from a Transit, it's not a Mazda engine- the separation of the two companies happened well before it was put into the Transit Connect.  Even when it was shared, the development was shared.  But I know that it's more popular to bash US car companies....  

Incorrect. The Duratech 2.5 is a Mazda LF engine. No need to bash US car companies, they do quite a good job themselves. That wasn't what I came here to do. I actually like this idea of the engine in this chassis.
 

Open your mind before you open your mouth. https://www.google.com/amp/s/fordauthority.com/fmc/ford-motor-company-engines/ford-duratec-engine-family/ford-2-5l-duratec-engine/amp/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Transit_Connect

 

 

alfadriver
alfadriver GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/6/21 6:11 p.m.

In reply to Junghole :

Dude, I worked on the team that developed that family of engines back in 2000.  I know very much how much work we did at Ford and what Mazda did.  Feel free to tell me what I did wasn't real, but it was.  I was in meetings with engineers from Mazda, and I know the people in Dearborn who did our drawings and development.

That engine family was a very good one, and what we all did together was pretty amazing.  But to pretend what we did was nothing, well, yea- that's not going to fly with me.

And it happened to end up being a very easy engine family to make PZEV, which was a huge deal 20 years ago.

As a matter of fact, back in 2003, we made a couple of turbo Duratecs- one that just had a turbo in the exhaust stream to test the heat loss, and the other in a Mondeo that was an actual boosted car.  Pretty fun.  *Almost* lead to a turbo Focus from SVT, but that didn't happen.  But it also lead to a nice trip to visit Volvo about turbos.

To make this more tangent, I even "have" a 2018 Transit Connect development vehicle...  Last used to project a 2024 version.

edit- I just looked at the wiki for the Mazda L, and it claims that the 2.0l Ecoboost based on the earlier Mazda LF- it was not. Very much was not.   I know that someone looked into using the block, but other than that (if it was used), everything else was different- head, pistons, intake, etc- all designed around the DI system for our Ecoboost 2.0l family.   We did have a Mazda 6 as an early DI development car (when we were working on the 3.5 GTDI) but things were changing so quickly, we didn't use much info from that work.

Junghole
Junghole SuperDork
10/6/21 6:36 p.m.

In reply to alfadriver :

Good to know. Sorry to call you a liar, I didn't realize you had a hand in this engine first hand. Had I known... but... this means there is a LOT of misinformation out there about this engine. Because all I can go off of is what the internet tells me. 

alfadriver
alfadriver GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/6/21 7:24 p.m.

In reply to Junghole :

It's all good.  Seems that everyone here knows I'm a development engineer at Ford.  For just 7 more months!  Yay!!!

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