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Vracer111
Vracer111 HalfDork
1/18/24 3:48 p.m.

Something less hardcore which is coming out soon...

CF Moto 450MT: ~ 420lbs full wet weight, ~43hp @ 8,500rpm / ~32lb-ft @ 6,250rpm, holds 4.6gallons of fuel.

https://www.cycleworld.com/bikes/cfmoto-450mt-first-look/

Amazing the Chinese are the only ones producing lightweight ADV bikes so far... there is a huge market for it and the Japanese will be losing out.

Rodan
Rodan UltraDork
1/18/24 5:12 p.m.
Vracer111 said:

Amazing the Chinese are the only ones producing lightweight ADV bikes so far... there is a huge market for it and the Japanese are losing out.

QFT.  

 

budget_bandit
budget_bandit New Reader
1/21/24 6:02 p.m.

My flat-tracker-ish thing:

Sportster with a 1250 kit, fiberglass fender, rattlecan glitter paint with 2k clear, dirtbike bars/controls, 2-1 pipe. I'd like to sell it but i have no idea what to ask for it, i'm 98% sure im gonna take a loss on it which is sad. But it's a hoot to ride with the raised up seating position 

DarkMonohue
DarkMonohue GRM+ Memberand Dork
1/21/24 7:47 p.m.
budget_bandit said:

I'd like to sell it...

Oh REALLY?

[checking location]

Ah, rats. You're a long way from the Pacific Northwet. Oh, well...

budget_bandit
budget_bandit New Reader
1/21/24 8:02 p.m.

In reply to DarkMonohue :

Don't break my heart! I'll ride it to you

Professor_Brap (Forum Supporter)
Professor_Brap (Forum Supporter) UberDork
1/21/24 8:48 p.m.

In reply to budget_bandit :

Street trackers are so rad, big need, just no space. 

budget_bandit
budget_bandit New Reader
1/21/24 9:46 p.m.

Here's my daily rider (from April-October anyways). 09 FXD. I know "club style" is overdone on the west coast but I don't see anyone else with one up here. Knockoff pelican cases and a half fairing make this bike pretty darn practical. It runs 90 on the highway easy with the 6 speed, too

ae86andkp61 (Forum Supporter)
ae86andkp61 (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/21/24 10:33 p.m.

In reply to budget_bandit :

Love it! I bet it is a hoot to ride, and I always appreciate the style of a street tracker. I already see your not in the Pacific Northwest, which means I can talk myself down. GLWS!

Vracer111
Vracer111 HalfDork
1/30/24 8:34 p.m.

Steering stabilizer (GPR V5-D)/handle bar mount system installed and tested yesterday... self corrects nicely at speed (70-80mph) with just a bit more shock/vibration felt through handlebar compared to stock anti-vibration setup, but has a better more-responsive steering feel.

Vracer111
Vracer111 HalfDork
1/30/24 9:22 p.m.

In reply to Rodan :

Have you looked into the Honda CB500X's... currently trying to help a close friend find a bike (looking for something "dual-sporty" that cruises good on highway and is decent offroad) and he's interested in the RE Himalayan 411, Kawasaki Versys-X 300, or a Honda CB500X. Cost being issue he's trying to go the Himalayan route... trying to find a good deal on a CB500X though. A CB500X with Rally Raid setup is a thing of beauty and great smaller ADV bike from what I'm researching:

Actually found a nice 2016 listed with a level 2 Rally Raid setup (19"/17" tubeless wire wheels, long travel 2" increased travel shocks with remote adjustment, engine crash guards/skid plate/luggage mounts/etc...) for a screaming deal ... by screaming deal mean same price as a nice deal on a stock used one. Question right now is if the deal is still available... have put an inquiry in about it.

Ethnic Food-Wrap Aficionado
Ethnic Food-Wrap Aficionado Dork
1/30/24 10:27 p.m.

Oh, no.  Not again.

ddavidv
ddavidv UltimaDork
1/31/24 7:47 a.m.

I was very close to going the CB500X route. I just find Hondas so vanilla I knew I'd tire of it quickly. The Versys 300X fits me like a glove but it's saddled with the wrong engine for any kind of off-road use. A high revving Ninja engine? Kawi should be slapped.

I wound up with the Himalayan Scram version, and I love it. It will do 65 comfortably, and 70 with only mild annoyance. You won't go faster than that, though. It's still awesome off-road. Cheap to buy and cheap parts. Modern RE's are decently built, unlike my old Bullet. Used Himmys of both types are pretty easy to find for cheap, but with the new 452 models on the way dealers have been discounting new ones pretty hard. I have 4 bikes, and the Scram is the one I roll out of the garage for a ride most often.

Rodan
Rodan UltraDork
1/31/24 9:02 a.m.

In reply to Vracer111 :

Like ddavidv, I've found most Hondas pretty boring for the last couple of decades, but that's interesting.  I'm only an hour or so away from the Rally Raid modified one you found, and that is a great deal, if the seller ever surfaces.   Local dealer has a low mile stock 2018 for about the same money.... might have to see if I can get a test ride.  

 

ddavidv
ddavidv UltimaDork
1/31/24 4:42 p.m.

Rally Raid stuff is nice, but you'll spend a small fortune turning that CB500X into a equivalent $ used Triumph Tiger...and still be riding a Honda. If you watch Big Rock Moto's videos, he does a fair review of the Honda and several competitors. You can get an idea of what it's like from a pretty unbiased reviewer. I just think the bike is a little too road oriented stock, and costs too much to fix all the stuff to make it really off-road capable. If it's just occasional light gravel road use, then I think it's probably a fine bike. 

Vracer111
Vracer111 HalfDork
1/31/24 9:42 p.m.

In reply to ddavidv :

Yeah but this CB500X with the full compliment of Rally Raid upgrades (with ~5k miles on the setup per the install thread I read) is selling for the price of good deal for a regular bone stock used CB500X... https://www.advrider.com/f/threads/2016-cb500x-w-rally-raid.1665027/

I like Big Rock Moto vids, great resource when researching/comparing. In talking with my friend he wasn't actually interested in the CB400X but the CRF450L... LOL big difference there and not going to find a 450L in his price range ($5k or under).

This research on the CB500X has really got me wanting one really bad though.... really want to sell the KLX and get a CB500X as the KOVE absolutely is an upgrade and replacement for the KLX300R - don't see myself wanting to ride the KLX 300R anymore. The KLX is a great bike, the KOVE is just noticeably better in most all areas. A CB500X Rally Raid would be a good street legal companion to the offroad/OHV only KOVE, and only a bit less Power/Weight ratio than the KOVE... guess I need to look into the process of getting a motorcycle endorsement on my license now & more practice riding/prepping for test. Don't really want to ride on street though... just want to be able to use streets to get to where I'd want to ride offroad.

ORIF (Forum Supporter)
ORIF (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand New Reader
2/2/24 4:45 p.m.

Rodan
Rodan UltraDork
2/8/24 9:30 a.m.
Vracer111 said:

Something less hardcore which is coming out soon...

CF Moto 450MT

Looks like this is official now.... coming to the US as the Ibex 450, probably not until Fall.

The more I think about it, I'm probably better off with a street bike and something like a KLX300 or DRZ400.  This MT09SP showed up a the local dealer... guy bought it brand new from them a couple months ago and got into some financial issues and sold it back to them.  2023 with 108(!) miles.  I loved the CP3 triple in my FJ09... and this has 8 years of suspension and electronic updates over that bike.

 

Professor_Brap (Forum Supporter)
Professor_Brap (Forum Supporter) UberDork
2/8/24 11:00 a.m.

In reply to Rodan :

As someone who has a crf250L and a drz, both are absolute tanks of bikes. Can 10/10 recommend both. Also got a ton of seat time on a 2022 mt09 sp (2,500miles) buy a base and do the suspension to your liking, factory ohlins leaves a bunch to be desired. 

Vracer111
Vracer111 HalfDork
2/8/24 3:04 p.m.
Rodan said:
Vracer111 said:

Something less hardcore which is coming out soon...

CF Moto 450MT

Looks like this is official now.... coming to the US as the Ibex 450, probably not until Fall.

The more I think about it, I'm probably better off with a street bike and something like a KLX300 or DRZ400.  This MT09SP showed up a the local dealer... guy bought it brand new from them a couple months ago and got into some financial issues and sold it back to them.  2023 with 108(!) miles.  I loved the CP3 triple in my FJ09... and this has 8 years of suspension and electronic updates over that bike.

Ever thought about something like the Kawasaki Versys X 300? Seems to be a really good 'dual sport'/small ADV that can be had for really low price.

 

Rodan
Rodan UltraDork
2/8/24 5:52 p.m.

In reply to Vracer111 :

I looked at them pretty hard as a second bike back when I had my FJ09, but they're pretty heavy for a 300.  I don't think the advantages on-road are enough to make it a better choice (for me) than a KLX300.  They are getting pretty cheap, though.

Vracer111
Vracer111 HalfDork
2/8/24 9:26 p.m.

If you are looking for a KLX300, my '22 R will be available soon... finally just AZ titled it (coming in along with OHV tags) since 100% know I want to sell it now. Have everything necessary to make it road legal in AZ (which will be installing on it soon), plus spares/original exhaust/consumables and the Factory Service manual. R version is noticeable lighter with better suspension than the factory road legal version and doesn't have the secondary butterfly valve in the throttlebody like the DS does which stunts the power delivery below 7k compared to the R version. Only downside would be no rear seat subframe for luggage rack mounting... but soft saddlebags work just fine. The Barker's Performance exhaust with quiet core/spark arrestor and KDX intake snorkel & PC6 tune really woke it up and smooth out the throttle response, especially noticeable when crawling slow. Welcome to ride it if have a chance to be in the area.

KLX250 with a Barker's exhaust...

maschinenbau
maschinenbau GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
2/9/24 8:51 a.m.

Hooligan mode engaged

Rodan
Rodan UltraDork
2/9/24 10:25 a.m.

In reply to Vracer111 :

What are the valve adjustment intervals on the 300R?

Peabody
Peabody MegaDork
2/9/24 10:32 a.m.

I've owned a few of those KLX's, and ran into the guy who bought my last one yesterday. It looks like it might be coming home. They're pretty good value and really the best of the recycled Japanese bikes in that category. No offence to anybody who owns one, but those CRF's are not, and a good example of what's really wrong with Honda as a motorcycle manufacturer today. 

Professor_Brap (Forum Supporter)
Professor_Brap (Forum Supporter) UberDork
2/9/24 1:03 p.m.

In reply to maschinenbau :

Supermoto is best moto

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