Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/5/24 7:35 p.m.

When I was in the Air Force my AFSC wasn't allowed to wear any jewelry because of safety issues.  Since then I haven't worn any just out of habit but lately I've wanted a watch for some reason.  I like older things and looked at vintage watches for a while until I remembered that I had some watches that used to belong to my uncle.  I like this first one because of the simple design.  Best I can do to ID is it's a 1956 Bulova 23 G.  The crystal is cracked and the hands have some corrosion on them but it works which is amazing to me.  Is fixing it up something I can do?  Best to get the replacement parts and take to a watch repair place?  I'd also like to replace the band with a leather one.

This is the other one I liked.  It doesn't work at all, the crystal is also bad, and it's missing the crown.  I can't even read the whole name and the ones I tried to guess at didn't come up with anything.  

Any advice or information you guys can give me?

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
11/5/24 7:53 p.m.

That first one looks like it's worth almost $400 in good shape.

https://empress.cc/products/1954-bulova-usa-23-jewels-selfwinding-automatic-gents-dress-watch

I'd take it to a jeweler and see what they say.

 

I have a nice seiko titanium and I had the crystal replaced and some other maintenance for around $75.  

02Pilot
02Pilot PowerDork
11/5/24 8:28 p.m.

They're both automatics (self-winding), which will add to the overhaul cost. I'd find a specialist watch repair shop that does the work in-house; I just did this with one of mine earlier this year. Pay for a full overhaul. It's not cheap, but to my mind it's worth paying once to have it done right.

Straps are easy. I've bought a bunch from StrapsCo, but there are many other sources. Just get the tool and pop the spring bars out, or have the shop do it while they have the watch.

Edit: the second one looks to be a Helbros. I don't know anything about the brand, unfortunately.

red_stapler
red_stapler SuperDork
11/5/24 8:30 p.m.

There are a ton of YouTube videos on wristwatch repair.  If you're good with small objects, it's a new hobby that isn't impossible.  That being said, if you're not looking for a new hobby, a jeweler would be the way to go.

j_tso
j_tso Dork
11/5/24 8:54 p.m.

seconding others' recommendations for a local jeweler/watchmaker.

"23 jewels" on the Bulova may be promising. Manufacturers use tiny rubies as bearings for the fast moving parts for their durability. In contrast, old Timexes were all steel and get worn to the point they're not repairable.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 MegaDork
11/5/24 8:54 p.m.
Stealthtercel
Stealthtercel SuperDork
11/5/24 9:28 p.m.

When I clicked on this thread, I was thinking, "Why would it be hard to watch someone helping a philistine? Aren't we supposed to help philistines?"

It's OK. I get it now. Please carry on.

DasAuto
DasAuto GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/5/24 11:16 p.m.

That Bulova is absolutely worth having serviced and restored.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
11/6/24 1:18 a.m.

In reply to 02Pilot :

Buy once, cry once.

Jerry From LA
Jerry From LA UltraDork
11/6/24 3:59 a.m.

If you want to do it yourself, learn watchmaking as it's a dying art.  I wouldn't start with these two watches because they have some value both monetarily and as a keepsake.

If you just want the watches to work and look like new, pay to have the work done.  It's amazing how great they can look and function in the hands of a good watchmaker.

dxman92
dxman92 SuperDork
11/6/24 7:37 a.m.

Those are beautiful watches. I'm sure in the hands of a good jeweler, they could restore them back to working order!

yupididit
yupididit UltimaDork
11/6/24 8:19 a.m.

I'll buy both from you if you don't want to be bothered. I never sell my watches so they'll be in a happy home lol

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/6/24 8:59 a.m.

In reply to yupididit :

You're first in line but I warn you I doubt I'd sell either.

Thanks everyone for the info and yes the second one is a Helbros.  Not a lot of info on them but I did find the same model for sale on ebay:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/315906249782

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 MegaDork
11/6/24 9:13 a.m.

In reply to Stampie :

If I'm seeing that correctly -- Made in West Germany?

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/6/24 9:24 a.m.

In reply to 1988RedT2 :

Yes and I missed that on mine but verified after seeing that one.

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/6/24 10:54 a.m.

Found the Helbros model from a 1970 ad.  Middle far left.

Edit - Found a 69 ad that has the same band as what I have. Top right.

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