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Duke
Duke MegaDork
8/9/19 9:39 a.m.
z31maniac said:
Duke said:
gencollon said:

To the OP: if everyone you know is a dick.... well, you are the constant in the equation. Time to re-evaluate the company you keep, along with your own actions and words.

I'm talking on a planet-sized, civilization-wide.

My options for choosing the company I keep are limited at that scale.

How are the options for who you associate with limited?

Are you literally being forced to be around people you don't want to associate with?

I am stuck on the same planet with some dicks, who exhibit dickishness on a global scale.

We all are.

Is that a difficult concept to understand?

Or are you just being dicks?

 

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
8/9/19 10:41 a.m.
Duke said:
z31maniac said:
Duke said:
gencollon said:

To the OP: if everyone you know is a dick.... well, you are the constant in the equation. Time to re-evaluate the company you keep, along with your own actions and words.

I'm talking on a planet-sized, civilization-wide.

My options for choosing the company I keep are limited at that scale.

How are the options for who you associate with limited?

Are you literally being forced to be around people you don't want to associate with?

I am stuck on the same planet with some dicks, who exhibit dickishness on a global scale.

We all are.

Is that a difficult concept to understand?

Or are you just being dicks?

 

I guess I'm being a dick, by not associating with dicks. 

 

Carry on. 

Duke
Duke MegaDork
8/9/19 12:08 p.m.
z31maniac said:
Duke said:

I am stuck on the same planet with some dicks, who exhibit dickishness on a global scale.

We all are.

I guess I'm being a dick, by not associating with dicks.

Do you live on a different planet?  Because if you're on Earth:

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
8/9/19 3:37 p.m.

You guys are really making me appreciate my work/personal life. 

gencollon
gencollon New Reader
8/9/19 9:59 p.m.

Oh, you're asking why humanity is entrenched in such barbarism worldwide?

That's simple: High prevalence of low IQ groups, and terrible parenting resulting in widespread child abuse/trauma.

 

High IQ is necessary, but not sufficient for an advanced, peaceful society.

The high IQ group has the mental horsepower to create complex, efficient, reliable machinery which underlies and supports an advanced civilization. 

For that utopia to come into existence, the high IQ population needs to deliver a bunch of children to adulthood, without trauma, into a largely voluntary society where collaboration is rewarded, and coersion shunned. 

 

The research I have seen shows that countries whose population has an average IQ of 90 or less fail to create or maintain democracies (not that democracy is great... but the people having some say is generally better than the autocratic options) 

https://brainstats.com/average-iq-by-country.html

'Adult dysfunction is the result of childhood dysfunction'

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4690705/

Sadly, bad parenting is very common, which is shown to lower IQ and leave children with sometimes life long trauma, which certainly effects their life outcomes.

And here's a free book which I think offers a lot of useful perspective:

https://psychohistory.com/books/the-origins-of-war-in-child-abuse/

The best thing we can all do at this time is help out abuse victims, try to make the abusers see the errors of their ways and want to change, and become peaceful parents ourselves.

That's the way I see it. The goal is less violence, more voluntarism & negotiating between individuals.

 

 

 

RX8driver
RX8driver Reader
8/10/19 9:26 a.m.

I think one other element that's in short supply these days is critical thinking and reason. Too much false information out there being reported as truth, especially in social media.

 

Anti-vaxxers are a prime example of this, but also extreme dickishness. I'd argue with that issue, the vast majority of dicks are on the anti-vaxxer side, as I've read about some absolutely appalling behavior on their side.

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
8/10/19 10:20 a.m.

In reply to gencollon :

Hmm....  perhaps - and I have argued a similar point to a number of my friends who don't want to have children for various "logical" reasons...  Some of the problem is the so-called "high-IQ" folks often develop a sense of superiority about themselves, which can (and often has) created a very fierce "us vs. them" mentality. 

Meanwhile, I've known a number of "stupid" people who are among the nicest I've ever met.  They just try to go about their lives without hurting anyone.  

Cooter
Cooter UltraDork
8/10/19 11:48 a.m.

In reply to RX8driver :

Might be casting a bit deep here...

ShawnG
ShawnG PowerDork
8/10/19 6:47 p.m.

 

I never heard of no plant growin' in no toilet, hurr hurr hurr...

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