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ProDarwin said:

aircooled said:

It looks like there is future potential for an RX7 vs 944 race, but it still needs some work.

I will do some more work on the RX-7 "Cup" variant, but I would like it if some could spend some time with the current car to try and work out a good setup.  Whats there now is very "slidey", but my last lap on the race I did with it was still within a second of the fastest 944 time.  Something more predictable and precise could really help.  I like the "imbalance" of speed and cornering between the two.

I'm feeling better and will try to work on this some tonight, see what I can come up with.  

Correction, I'll test the cars but at a different track, that one is way too long for testing and it needs to be a familiar course.

Did that with all the ports etc and there is something I am missing. 

The issue is that when I try and run one server it killed the second one. There are some paths I need to set up in the server manager. That is where I think I am doing it wrong. I can run either one using the different port settings and they work fine independently.  Try and have them running together and starting the second one kills the one that is already running.  

If I can get this set up I could have three or four servers running at the same time to have multiple single make car servers for testing. Or I can have servers set up for the race with others set up as practice servers for the race.  It would also let me manipulate the servers with people on the others. No waiting for me to set a server up on Wednesdays.  

The other advantage is I would not have two computers running all the time. 

I messed with the rx7, and think the setup is fun and easy to drive. The overall grip is just lower, and my laps are not close enough to the 944 to be competitive. However the M3 and 190 dtm cars are probably good competition for the 944.

Dean, can you change the track that the RX7 and 944 are on to something shorter and that we have run before?  I'd like to test but that track is way too long for test and tune.

Just got home. What do u want?  Nb short?  WG short?  
 

I think the lap times at these track will be close the Bridgehampton. But they are more balanced than Bridgehampton. 
 

what about red bull ring short?  
 

The thing I found is the RX has a much better top end so any track with big straits it will be passing the 944.  However put them an a track with lots of corners and the 944 will dominate.

 I would see about lowering the top end Hp a bit and upping the grip a bit on the RX7 and not mess with its handling characteristics. I have owned both cars and they are very good representations of the way the cars feel

I'm fine with the full track for any of those, they aren't super long. Just whatever is balanced between corners and straights. 

Alright I am going to get in in a couple few and I will pick somthing. 

Also, swap the 935 with the 917 K

I am on for a bit the server is on WG long. . It is the track I use to test cars.. 

Tested with Sauce and the RX7 just is not tunable to get to the lap times of the 944. 
 

I later put the tires from the 944 on to the RX7 and while it made the car better it was not faster. I was thinking of putting the tires that are on the RX7 on to the 944 and see if it slows it down.  
 

There are several other Turbo 944 models. I think I will pull them out and test them and see how they compare to the RX7. That may be the answer. 

I hope to be on tonight to test some other car. I may also mess around with tweaking the 944 cup car to slow it down a little. 

Sorry, haven't taken the time to mess with the RX7 a bit more.  I can correct it to 944 speed.

Do you have reference lap times & track for the two cars from you and Sauce?

The first thing I was going to do was put the RX7 tires on the 944. I went the other way and it made the RX7 drive much better. The tire temp issues also went away as well. The problem was it was not faster for me. 

I was also going to test a couple 356 Porsche's I down loaded as well as see about a replacement for the Mobi Dick 935. 

I don't have specific time for you. What I can tell you is that the 944 was faster by at least a second. The other real problem is that the left rear tire over heats in a lap or two. I think the answer will be to swap the RX7 to the 944 tires and possibly take away either grip or speed from the 944. 
 

I don't know if you can do it but if we put the 944 tires on the RX7 and added a little grip that could also equalize things some.  
 

I really need to test the two cars on a bigger track. Maybe spa something to see if the RX will shine on the bigger faster tracks.  

Yeah, my plan is to put on 944 spec tires first.  I might not keep the stagger though.  I want to verify track widths and suspension geometry, but I think I need to get the wheel rates and dampers in the same ballpark as the 944.  For some reason when I tried that previously it just wasn't cooperating - I think the dampers were definitely part of the issue.

Once I do that it should close the gap, or improve drivability/consistency at a minimum, then I can fine tune from there.

To be clear the RX7 was having tire overheating issues not the 944.

It would be my preference to upgrade the RX7 and not down grade the 944. The staggered tires of the 944 are a characteristic of the car and I would hate to take that away as it would mess up the balance of the car. The 944 has virtually Perfect handling as is and is almost an exact simulation of how my 951 track car handled. 

I found a more comparable FC rx7 tonight.  It needs a bit more detuning to make it equal to the 944 cup car but I think it is a much better starting point.  We can play with it tonight. 

So, for tonight, if we want to roll with the Porsche series next week, we need to lock in on a replacement for the 935.  I think the 917 will work, but we will need to play with it and make sure the tune is OK.  The 924 and any 356's Dean found might be considerations.

We can also solidify on a good base tune for the 550.

My and my kid were running the 917 and have a pretty good tune I think.  Fun car.