How many seat adjustments is too many?

Colin
By Colin Wood
Aug 1, 2023 | Seats, Discussion, Seat Adjustment

Photograph Courtesy Lincoln

Being able to adjust the driver’s seat is important to ensure safe driving, but how much adjustment do we really need?

Take, for example, Lincoln’s Perfect Position seats that offer 30 different adjustments:

  • 6 ways to adjust track
  • 2 ways to recline
  • 4 ways to adjust head restraint
  • 2 ways to adjust upper back bolster support
  • 4 ways to adjust cushion extension
  • 4 ways to adjust lumbar support
  • 2 ways to adjust back bolster
  • 2 ways to adjust cushion bolster
  • 4 ways to adjust thigh support

Do you like the idea of being able to adjust virtually every facet, angle and support of the seat? Or do you just need the seat to be able to get you close enough to the peddles and the steering wheel?

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Comments
David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
8/1/23 1:01 p.m.

Paging JG, paging JG. 

Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
8/1/23 1:03 p.m.

I know in my heart that 30 is far too much. I feel like I would spend far too much time fiddling with the seats only to get it "almost right."

Besides the forward/backward and up/down (powered, of course), I'd just like to be able to adjust the bolster for my back.

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
8/1/23 1:11 p.m.

'80s Toyotas had like two adjustments and they were perfect. This Lincoln seems to have nearly 25,000 possible combinations of adjustment, none of which matter if the seats suck to begin with. 

Nicole Suddard
Nicole Suddard GRM+ Memberand Marketing Coordinator
8/1/23 1:11 p.m.

Forward/backward, up/down, maybe a little seat base tilt action, seat back angle, headrest position and the rare-but-game-changing lumbar adjustment are all I would ask for even in a luxury model.

The steering wheel adjustments can get you the rest of the way there in terms of comfortable driving position.

Toyman!
Toyman! GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/1/23 1:24 p.m.

If the seat is properly designed from the start, 2 will do. 

The VW has 6-way seats. They are pretty comfortable. But then the wife drives it and changes everything and I can never seem to get it back where it was before. I've been tempted to set the seat and pull the fuse. That way she thinks it's broken and drives something else. 

 

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
8/1/23 1:28 p.m.

As long as the seat memory works, I'm ok with that 30. 

madmrak351
madmrak351 Reader
8/1/23 1:30 p.m.
Nicole Suddard said:

Forward/backward, up/down, maybe a little seat base tilt action, seat back angle, headrest position and the rare-but-game-changing lumbar adjustment are all I would ask for even in a luxury model.

The steering wheel adjustments can get you the rest of the way there in terms of comfortable driving position.

This nailed it!!!

eastsideTim
eastsideTim UltimaDork
8/1/23 1:46 p.m.
Toyman! said:

If the seat is properly designed from the start, 2 will do. 

The VW has 6-way seats. They are pretty comfortable. But then the wife drives it and changes everything and I can never seem to get it back where it was before. I've been tempted to set the seat and pull the fuse. That way she thinks it's broken and drives something else. 

 

I'm surprised something that fancy doesn't have seat memory.  If there are no visible buttons for it, it could be based on the key fob - do you both use the same one?

Toyman!
Toyman! GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/1/23 1:50 p.m.

In reply to eastsideTim :

You have to get the Lux to have seat memory. I rather strongly didn't want leather, air ride, a glass roof to leak, or any of the other useless garbage that the Lux had. I'll deal with the seat so I don't have to deal with the rest of the crap.

 

Byrneon27
Byrneon27 HalfDork
8/1/23 1:54 p.m.

Spent the weekend installing E38 sport/contour seats in my E39 and like however many adjustments they have is correct. 

Had a 2020ish big Lincoln in the shop yesterday and the seats are incredible 

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