Hyundai scraps all but N model from Veloster lineup

It's such an odd car. I WANT to like it I really do but I want 4 doors and a hatch.

They discontinued it up here in Canada last year, so it's not a surprise.

I think it was a solid car, too bad it wasn't more popular. The bang for the buck with the turbo-R was very solid.

Not surprising.  N will probably be scrapped after this 'generation'.

Just give it 4 berkeleying doors already.

bobzilla said:

It's such an odd car. I WANT to like it I really do but I want 4 doors and a hatch.

Get a Kia Stinger. It's got 4 doors and a hatch. Cheaper than Genesis. 

Really should have made it a 2 door coupe or with four doors, hated that third door idea. Didn't like it when Saturn did it too

aw614 said:

Really should have made it a 2 door coupe or with four doors, hated that third door idea. Didn't like it when Saturn did it too

4>3>2

2 door would suck.  I would never have owned one if it were a 2 door.

I might still own one if it were a 4 door.

In reply to ProDarwin :

We had a rental Veloster for about 6 weeks while waiting for an airbag for our Fit. I found the driver's door to be irritating, as it didn't give much room to reach anything in the back seat. The rear hatch opening is pretty tall too & kinda odd shaped. 

As an autox car that I didn't have to use daily an N model would be fun, but if I had to use it to haul kids/pets/groceries I think it would get tiring. 

I had a Rspec as a DD for 2 years.  The drivers door got super berkeleying old because its so big.  Had to be careful not to park next to anything.  The passenger side doors are perfect.  Just do what they did on the pass side on the drivers side and it would be great.

The hatch loading height is definitely not ideal, but not a deal breaker for most people.  The hatch area is actually pretty decent.

I quite like the regular Veloster (had one as a rental a bunch of time) - reminds me of a CRX with a bit more space.

I probably would be cross shopping it as an Alfa replacement next year with some other hot hatches, and in that case it would have to be a Veloster N anyway.

I still think it was a mistake giving the Veloster the N treatment instead of the Elantra GT (i30) like the rest of the world.

The Veloster is "funky" but it has so many compromises to the reasons one would typically buy a hatchback. It's niche for nicheness' sake.

If it was AWD and a bit more power, I'd probably already own one. 

I've already done the big power, turbo FWD car..........It got old quickly. 

In reply to pointofdeparture :

This is an excellent point. Niche for the sake of being niche.

In reply to z31maniac :

Do you own a Focus RS? ;)

I ended up in one for a rental once.  I thought I was getting CRX clone, like one I used to have, but the chassis was, let's say, flexible.  Suspension was soft.  Maybe they got better in the last few years?

In reply to pointofdeparture :

I would own that if it were sold here. 

pointofdeparture said:

I still think it was a mistake giving the Veloster the N treatment instead of the Elantra GT (i30) like the rest of the world.

The Veloster is "funky" but it has so many compromises to the reasons one would typically buy a hatchback. It's niche for nicheness' sake.

This. The Veloster is a quirky car and not for everyone. The N model should have been on the Elantra GT/I30 to start. It's a more useful car that would sell better.

In reply to jharry3 :

The chassis changed from the 1st gen to the 2nd gen (2019+).  Apples to oranges but, the Soul I have is on the same chassis as the 1st gen Veloster, the Veloster I had was a 2nd gen.  The Soul chassis feels like utter garbage by comparison.

In reply to Tony Sestito :

I wish they'd learn and also bring the i20N over.

I'm a fan.  Don't own one but me likey.  
 

So many have already beat the point home, I sat in a Elantra Sport.. aka the i30 hatch..

I fit just fine for headroom in the backseat.

I don't fit in the back seat of the Veloster...

it wasn't niche.. it was just berkeleying weird.

Keith Tanner said:

Do you own a Focus RS? ;)

'10 MazdaSpeed 3. Torque steer for days. Completely stock it wouldn't hook up in 1st or 2nd even though it was boost limited in both gears. Like roll on the throttle in 1st "Wapapapapapapapa" shift into 2nd roll on the throttle "Wapapapapapapapa" shift into 3rd then it went like stink.  

I'm sure I could have made it better, but I didn't want to put extra money into it. 

Tony Sestito said:

pointofdeparture said:

I still think it was a mistake giving the Veloster the N treatment instead of the Elantra GT (i30) like the rest of the world.

The Veloster is "funky" but it has so many compromises to the reasons one would typically buy a hatchback. It's niche for nicheness' sake.

This. The Veloster is a quirky car and not for everyone. The N model should have been on the Elantra GT/I30 to start. It's a more useful car that would sell better.

I would trade my GT Sport M6 for a GT N or a GT Sport N or whatever they would call the High HP i30N over here tomorrow.    

Had a first gen veloster as a rental once. Was excited for all of 3 miles, then I was just blegh... Floppy doesn't describe the chassis. numb, uninspiring etc...  

Does this mean we'll get that crazy mid engine veloster that was rumored like a year ago?  Obviously not, but maybe?

In reply to Mr. Lee :

I'm sure a base model rental spec NA car is JUST LIKE the turbo cars with bigger brakes/suspension and a manual trans. 100% identical. 

Too bad more companies don't have guts to put color in their paint.

In reply to ProDarwin :

It is a bit strange that they didn't just import the equivalent i series hatchback that they sell in the rest of the world.

The Veloster looks better though.

And I'm just sitting here and waiting for the mid-engine RWD N-car they promised me. 

I've read reports that the new Elantra also gets an N variant soon (not to be confused with a N-Line which also exists).



Gone is the manual trans, unfortunately. They do get the new wet clutch DCT, though. But no manual makes me sad.

EDIT: That news outlet that said the manual was gone was wrong. There WILL be a 6-speed manual offered. Nice.

In reply to Tony Sestito :

https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/2022-elantra-n-released/

i30 N with a manual trans, please.  Veloster just seemed like a bunch of odd compromises leading to a less than great car.  Odd for oddness sake, but odd conceived by committee.  

In reply to bobzilla :

Yep, I was wrong with the no manual thing. That site I got the info from (a clickbaity car site that came up on my phone's news app) said DCT only. Dead wrong.

Question RE: Veloster compromises.  Perhaps I am not seeing them because I had one so I am blind to them, but what are the compromises it has vs. the I30, aside from the lack of a 4th door?

In reply to pointofdeparture :

I was just thinking this. I like the second gen veloster more than the early ones because they look more sedated to me. Elantra N would be great. Looks like a Korean GTi

Tony Sestito said:

In reply to bobzilla :

Yep, I was wrong with the no manual thing. That site I got the info from (a clickbaity car site that came up on my phone's news app) said DCT only. Dead wrong.

and as you can imagine I am frothing at the mouth right now. 

ProDarwin said:

Question RE: Veloster compromises.  Perhaps I am not seeing them because I had one so I am blind to them, but what are the compromises it has vs. the I30, aside from the lack of a 4th door?

My wife has a '17 Veloster, I have a '13 Elantra GT. That's pretty much the biggest difference. The EGT has a lower hatch opening and the second door on the driver's side. I do prefer her Veloster to my EGT, but I think I can fix my gripes about my car with Veloster parts.