Nissan announcing an all-new GT-R tonight?

Hybrid?

Autotragic?

I predict new infotainment and a fresh paint color on the same 20? year old chassis.

Some updated body panels and 35 more hp is my guess.  

Just like the new Z is essentially a 350Z with new bodywork and an Infiniti Q60 engine. And the really sad part, they put in a twin-turbo V6 that only makes 50 hp more than the 370Z Nismo. 

From the teaser pics, it looks like another iteration of the R35 chassis. 

Tom Suddard said:

I predict new infotainment and a fresh paint color on the same 20? year old chassis.

More purple? 

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2021-nissan-gt-r-3/

Nope.  Nissan is going to be releasing brand new R34s but as kits to get around all the various laws.

Ok, maybe not.

Hopefully it's not a GTR Crossover.

RyanGreener (Forum Supporter) said:

Hopefully it's not a GTR Crossover.

They're already big enough to be most of the way there.

Keith Tanner said:

RyanGreener (Forum Supporter) said:

Hopefully it's not a GTR Crossover.

They're already big enough to be most of the way there.

I'm just imagining the elevated seating position, plastic cladding on the fenders and one of their CVTs paired to it.

mr2s2000elise said:

Hybrid?

Autotragic?

Fugly?

In reply to Appleseed :

I figured, that was a given 

RyanGreener (Forum Supporter) said:

Keith Tanner said:

RyanGreener (Forum Supporter) said:

Hopefully it's not a GTR Crossover.

They're already big enough to be most of the way there.

I'm just imagining the elevated seating position, plastic cladding on the fenders and one of their CVTs paired to it.

GTR Outback. 

Looks evolutionary. 

RyanGreener (Forum Supporter) said:

Keith Tanner said:

RyanGreener (Forum Supporter) said:

Hopefully it's not a GTR Crossover.

They're already big enough to be most of the way there.

I'm just imagining the elevated seating position, plastic cladding on the fenders and one of their CVTs paired to it.

So basically an R35 with a transmission that would be more reliable, were it not Nissan making the CVT.

....man, who whizzed in my Wheaties today?  I'm going to blame weather shift and intense sinus headache.

yawn. Same power

And here's the official release:

YOKOHAMA, Japan – Nissan today unveiled the new Japan-market GT-R, including two special editions, the Nissan GT-R Premium edition T-spec, and Nissan GT-R NISMO Special edition. The 2024 models are planned to hit the market in the coming spring and will be joined by the NISMO versions, planned to go on sale in summer.

With “evolving toward ultimate driving pleasure” as its product concept, the Nissan GT-R continues to enhance its status as a premium sports car. The new models represent the next level of balance between speed and ride quality. "Fronted with a new grille design, cutting-edge technologies and craftsmanship, the new models are the pinnacle of the GT-R R35," said Nissan COO Ashwani Gupta.

The models feature improved aerodynamics and a refined ride quality. While maintaining horsepower, noise and vibration have been reduced and the sound carefully tuned to enhance onboard comfort.

T-spec represents the GT-R’s philosophy of leading and shaping the times and is inspired by the words trend and traction. The GT-R T-spec has been created to always be ahead of the times and to drive with robust grip. The Nissan GT-R Premium edition T-spec is now equipped with specially set suspension and carbon disc brakes, delivering the pleasure of a smooth ride and responsive handling.

The Nissan GT-R NISMO maximizes the use of racing technologies. By refining aerodynamic performance, suspension tuning, and adding a mechanical limited-slip differential to the front final drive, this is the highest-performance GT-R ever. The exclusive Recaro carbon back bucket seats have been refreshed for enhanced drive quality, providing a unified feel with the car and increased comfort. The Nissan GT-R NISMO Special edition uses high-precision weight-balanced engine parts, such as piston rings, connecting rods, crankshaft, and a clear-coated NISMO-exclusive carbon engine hood (with NACA ducts).

All I'm seeing is a new bumper and some boring (new?) colors... I don't feel like we're missing out on much here.

I've been a Nissan fan since Jimmy Carter was in office but for this money I'd buy a lower end C8 Corvette and bank the rest for hotel rooms as I hoon around North America.

Or buy a newer Porsche instead.  

Wow, I'm not surprised but it's still amazing that they're selling the same car they launched in 2007. 

14-15 yesr life spans - NSX, 200 series Land Cruisers - now GTR

z31maniac said:

Some updated body panels and 35 more hp is my guess.  

Just like the new Z is essentially a 350Z with new bodywork and an Infiniti Q60 engine. And the really sad part, they put in a twin-turbo V6 that only makes 50 hp more than the 370Z Nismo. 

A twin turbo 276 hp Z32 only made 50 more hp than the 222 NA version. And while the NA version is useless to make more power, a boost controller and a fuel pump on the twin turbo and you're making good more power.

I don't even know why people quote disappointing stock turbocharged power numbers. It's a tune away from way more than that.

110-115K for a standard GTR with premium package actually still seems like a good deal. 210K for the special editions and they can blow it out their noses. Cannot believe I am even saying that the base is a good deal but its still a heck of a lot of car for the money. 

This is is sub base 911 coupe money with even the smallest option list you could live with. I am not sure what makes it better then a 3LT C8 at MSRP and slightly used there are a million things I would rather have. 

Now in GTR purple with white leather interior at the premium interior, bronze wheels, and GTR base price and I would be really tempted.  

115k for a Nissan seems like a good deal.....  wow.  I can remember my dad saying he'd never pay more than $7000 for a car when the RX-7 hit US shores when I was a kid.

crankwalk (Forum Supporter) said:

z31maniac said:

Some updated body panels and 35 more hp is my guess.  

Just like the new Z is essentially a 350Z with new bodywork and an Infiniti Q60 engine. And the really sad part, they put in a twin-turbo V6 that only makes 50 hp more than the 370Z Nismo. 

A twin turbo 276 hp Z32 only made 50 more hp than the 222 NA version. And while the NA version is useless to make more power, a boost controller and a fuel pump on the twin turbo and you're making good more power.

I don't even know why people quote disappointing stock turbocharged power numbers. It's a tune away from way more than that.

Nope, they were 300+. The 276 was something they did in Japan as a "gentleman's agreement." This has been well known for a couple of decades. 

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15131963/japan-dumps-276-hp-pact-car-news/

As for being a "tune away," sure but then you've just ensured that every powertrain warranty claim will be denied.

I need something to help me go to sleep at night. This time I'll probably just read about the GT-R.

David S. Wallens said:

And here's the official release:

YOKOHAMA, Japan – Nissan today unveiled the new Japan-market GT-R, including two special editions, the Nissan GT-R Premium edition T-spec, and Nissan GT-R NISMO Special edition. The 2024 models are planned to hit the market in the coming spring and will be joined by the NISMO versions, planned to go on sale in summer.

With “evolving toward ultimate driving pleasure” as its product concept, the Nissan GT-R continues to enhance its status as a premium sports car. The new models represent the next level of balance between speed and ride quality. "Fronted with a new grille design, cutting-edge technologies and craftsmanship, the new models are the pinnacle of the GT-R R35," said Nissan COO Ashwani Gupta.

The models feature improved aerodynamics and a refined ride quality. While maintaining horsepower, noise and vibration have been reduced and the sound carefully tuned to enhance onboard comfort.

T-spec represents the GT-R’s philosophy of leading and shaping the times and is inspired by the words trend and traction. The GT-R T-spec has been created to always be ahead of the times and to drive with robust grip. The Nissan GT-R Premium edition T-spec is now equipped with specially set suspension and carbon disc brakes, delivering the pleasure of a smooth ride and responsive handling.

The Nissan GT-R NISMO maximizes the use of racing technologies. By refining aerodynamic performance, suspension tuning, and adding a mechanical limited-slip differential to the front final drive, this is the highest-performance GT-R ever. The exclusive Recaro carbon back bucket seats have been refreshed for enhanced drive quality, providing a unified feel with the car and increased comfort. The Nissan GT-R NISMO Special edition uses high-precision weight-balanced engine parts, such as piston rings, connecting rods, crankshaft, and a clear-coated NISMO-exclusive carbon engine hood (with NACA ducts).

David S. Wallens said:

And here's the official release:

YOKOHAMA, Japan – Nissan today unveiled the new Japan-market GT-R, including two special editions, the Nissan GT-R Premium edition T-spec, and Nissan GT-R NISMO Special edition. The 2024 models are planned to hit the market in the coming spring and will be joined by the NISMO versions, planned to go on sale in summer.

With “evolving toward ultimate driving pleasure” as its product concept, the Nissan GT-R continues to enhance its status as a premium sports car. The new models represent the next level of balance between speed and ride quality. "Fronted with a new grille design, cutting-edge technologies and craftsmanship, the new models are the pinnacle of the GT-R R35," said Nissan COO Ashwani Gupta.

The models feature improved aerodynamics and a refined ride quality. While maintaining horsepower, noise and vibration have been reduced and the sound carefully tuned to enhance onboard comfort.

T-spec represents the GT-R’s philosophy of leading and shaping the times and is inspired by the words trend and traction. The GT-R T-spec has been created to always be ahead of the times and to drive with robust grip. The Nissan GT-R Premium edition T-spec is now equipped with specially set suspension and carbon disc brakes, delivering the pleasure of a smooth ride and responsive handling.

The Nissan GT-R NISMO maximizes the use of racing technologies. By refining aerodynamic performance, suspension tuning, and adding a mechanical limited-slip differential to the front final drive, this is the highest-performance GT-R ever. The exclusive Recaro carbon back bucket seats have been refreshed for enhanced drive quality, providing a unified feel with the car and increased comfort. The Nissan GT-R NISMO Special edition uses high-precision weight-balanced engine parts, such as piston rings, connecting rods, crankshaft, and a clear-coated NISMO-exclusive carbon engine hood (with NACA ducts).

David S. Wallens said:

And here's the official release:

YOKOHAMA, Japan – Nissan today unveiled the new Japan-market GT-R, including two special editions, the Nissan GT-R Premium edition T-spec, and Nissan GT-R NISMO Special edition. The 2024 models are planned to hit the market in the coming spring and will be joined by the NISMO versions, planned to go on sale in summer.

With “evolving toward ultimate driving pleasure” as its product concept, the Nissan GT-R continues to enhance its status as a premium sports car. The new models represent the next level of balance between speed and ride quality. "Fronted with a new grille design, cutting-edge technologies and craftsmanship, the new models are the pinnacle of the GT-R R35," said Nissan COO Ashwani Gupta.

The models feature improved aerodynamics and a refined ride quality. While maintaining horsepower, noise and vibration have been reduced and the sound carefully tuned to enhance onboard comfort.

T-spec represents the GT-R’s philosophy of leading and shaping the times and is inspired by the words trend and traction. The GT-R T-spec has been created to always be ahead of the times and to drive with robust grip. The Nissan GT-R Premium edition T-spec is now equipped with specially set suspension and carbon disc brakes, delivering the pleasure of a smooth ride and responsive handling.

The Nissan GT-R NISMO maximizes the use of racing technologies. By refining aerodynamic performance, suspension tuning, and adding a mechanical limited-slip differential to the front final drive, this is the highest-performance GT-R ever. The exclusive Recaro carbon back bucket seats have been refreshed for enhanced drive quality, providing a unified feel with the car and increased comfort. The Nissan GT-R NISMO Special edition uses high-precision weight-balanced engine parts, such as piston rings, connecting rods, crankshaft, and a clear-coated NISMO-exclusive carbon engine hood (with NACA ducts).

Driven5 said:

All I'm seeing is a new bumper and some boring (new?) colors... I don't feel like we're missing out on much here.

mr2s2000elise said:

14-15 yesr life spans - NSX, 200 series Land Cruisers - now GTR

Don't forget the C3.  1968-1982

Damn, my guess was wrong.  I was going to guess CVT....  Well, at least Nissan will stay true to form.  Just like their sedans are what you buy when Mitsubishi turns you down for financing, the GTR is what you buy when Lambo and McLaren laugh you out of their showroom.

So if I get all that marketing speak, it looks different, has maybe less NVH, and that's about it?

z31maniac said:

Nope, they were 300+. The 276 was something they did in Japan as a "gentleman's agreement." This has been well known for a couple of decades.

I forget if it was the 300ZX or the Supra, but people examined the ROM from a Japanese market computer versus an American market computer and found that they were the same tune.

And no American V8 made more than 425hp in the 1960s despite the engines getting larger, the heads better, the cams lumpier.

For 3/4 or less money, wouldn't you rather have this?

SKJSS (formerly Klayfish) said:

mr2s2000elise said:

14-15 yesr life spans - NSX, 200 series Land Cruisers - now GTR

Don't forget the C3.  1968-1982

Damn, my guess was wrong.  I was going to guess CVT....  Well, at least Nissan will stay true to form.  Just like their sedans are what you buy when Mitsubishi turns you down for financing, the GTR is what you buy when Lambo and McLaren laugh you out of their showroom.

Ah yes, the C3, bastion of American ugliness. 

And I resemble your comment, as a current Mitsubishi owner, trying to buy a Nissan  Guess, later in life, I am just making poorer and poorer decisions.

Appleseed said:

For 3/4 or less money, wouldn't you rather have this?

Yup R34 VSPEC for me, OR https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1995-nissan-skyline-44/

Pete. (l33t FS) said:

z31maniac said:

Nope, they were 300+. The 276 was something they did in Japan as a "gentleman's agreement." This has been well known for a couple of decades.

I forget if it was the 300ZX or the Supra, but people examined the ROM from a Japanese market computer versus an American market computer and found that they were the same tune.

And no American V8 made more than 425hp in the 1960s despite the engines getting larger, the heads better, the cams lumpier.

Yes, if you research it. There was nothing different. The Japanese manufacturers literally lied about the HP they produced as a Gentleman's agreement, like I previously said and shared a source to back up my claim. 

I'm nor sure what bringing up 60s muscle cars has to do with 90s JDM cars. 

In reply to z31maniac :

To read into both here, I believe Pete thought you meant only Japanese spec cars got the higher power.

I also think he's saying that American  muscle in the 60s made the same kind of gentleman's agreement..

classicJackets (FS) said:

In reply to z31maniac :

To read into both here, I believe Pete thought you meant only Japanese spec cars got the higher power.

 

I also think he's saying that American  muscle in the 60s made the same kind of gentleman's agreement..

Well, the US models made 300-320hp while the Japanese models made "276hp", but yes.

And yes there was a lot of nudge nudge wink wink at the Big 3 in the 60s because they wanted to be an advantage in NHRA classing, and keep insurance rates down, and make sure only racers bought the super awesome stuff so that warranty claims stayed down.

Some GMs really did make rated power because they had a little tab on the Quadrajet that would keep it from getting full throttle.  Nissan did something similar on R34s, something about marking in the vacuum hoses where to remove a restrictor pill to increase power by a lot.

Let's not forget about the NA / NB Miata being in the 15 year club. C4 Corvette nearly made it there too...

As far as Supras go, Japanese market 2jz's have smaller cams than the American market engines. They also had ceramic compressor wheels rather than the steel blades we had. Little differences, but they add up.