What makes the perfect daily driver?

Colin
By Colin Wood
Dec 5, 2021 | daily driver

Photograph Courtesy Chevrolet

As much as we love our track machines and our project cars, sometimes neither are particularly well suited to, say, getting groceries, commuting to the office or going on long road trips.

Enter the daily driver. Sure, these cars may not be quite as quick or interesting, but they still serve an important purpose in many of our lives.

What, then, makes the perfect daily? Is it more important to have a sensible vehicle that holds a lot and gets good gas mileage, or are you more focused on getting something that’s fast but also comfortable for longer drives?

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madmrak351
madmrak351 New Reader
12/3/21 4:49 p.m.

My Silverado pickup is fantastic as far as towing hauling stuff in the bed and more. However almost anything with 3 pedals is more fun, even my son's Xterra.

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 PowerDork
12/3/21 6:53 p.m.

The older I get the one constant I've always kept is decent power. The older I get the more I want in terms of comfort, sound system, and versatility. 

That being said I drive a lifted Sequoia as a daily thats beat to E36 M3. Waiting this market out. 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/3/21 7:36 p.m.

Reliability :)

80sFast
80sFast Reader
12/3/21 8:08 p.m.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

100%...other than that something you don't HAVE to think about, but when you do it makes you smile. 

Captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
Captdownshift (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
12/3/21 8:15 p.m.

Minimum of 30mpg, 40+ even better. Enough utility to fit the occasional large item. Reliable enough to take for granted and easy enough to work on that when something does need attention that you're not trying to figure out how much it would cost a shop to do it. 

BlueInGreen - Jon
BlueInGreen - Jon UltraDork
12/3/21 8:22 p.m.

Sturdy, relatively comfortable, nimble enough to be fun in the twisty part of the commute, and enough space to carry stuff like kids, dogs, guitars, tires, etc.
 

If I could find a manual hatchback Focus in a fun color with the same options as our 2012 sedan, well that would be just about perfect. That might be a unicorn though: sport package, heated cloth seats/heated side mirrors. I don't think I've seen one with heated seats that wasn't also loaded with sunroof and leather.

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/3/21 10:08 p.m.

Something that engages me as a driver.  That's kind of a hard metric to measure.  It has to be like Goldilocks' Porridge... just right.  It's one of the reasons I don't have a Miata.  They're friggin great, but after 30 miles I feel like I'm the underwear giving the car a wedgie.  I feel like I need to stop and get out every once in a while.  The performance is great, but they really are tiny inside.

Some of my favorites were:

E30 Cabrio.  It was lowered with H&R sports, Konis, and Mille Miglias.  It handled brilliantly, the engine was a blast, and it fit.  It was just the right mix of small but big enough.  I drove that car cross-country twice from L.A. to Toronto and if I were to be nitpicky, it was a little loud in the road noise department

On the complete opposite side of the spectrum, another favorite was a 73 Impala Wagon with a 454 and the coldest R12 A/C system I've ever known.  The cam I had in it was a bit big for the compression so it got 9mpg, but it would swallow a couch AND a loveseat.  I once used it to haul 15 concrete parking curbs.  Also drove that cross country twice.  It was a rolling futon.

Another favorite:  1978 MCI MC8 motorcoach.  8V91 Detroit.  It involved being an active driver.  Not active like "oh god I'm going to die because this steering is terrible," but active like Geordi LaForge on Star Trek. Flying the enterprise required pushing a lot of buttons and being the master of what you do.  The bus itself was a dream to drive, but you had to know it and talk to it.  You couldn't let the Dana auto downshift for itself.  If you did it would wait until 50mph going up a hill and that was too late.  As soon as you saw the needle start to reveal the top edge of 55 on the speedo, you dropped it down.  More passengers?  Adjust the air pressure in the tag axle springs so they get a smooth ride.  Tag axle steering giving you fits again?  Cycle the switch to re-engage the pin.  Know you're coming to a big hill?  Drop the A/C down to 68 for a couple minutes to cool things down and then turn it off before starting up the grade.  Make a wrong turn and have a low clearance? Cut off the air to the springs and drop it.  If that's not enough, air down the tires, and then refill them with the secondary brake tank.

I like things that offer a pleasant driving experience without being work.  I don't mind driving my 67 LeMans with it's marshmallow suspension and finnicky carburetor because everything works and it's pleasant.  My 73 AMC Hornet Sportabout was work.  Manual steering, brakes, windows... and none of it engineered properly.  I never understood how manual steering that was 309 turns lock-to-lock and 185mm rubber could be so impossible to turn below 25 mph, nor could I ever understand how those brakes ever passed a DOT approval.

Jay_W
Jay_W SuperDork
12/3/21 10:10 p.m.

4 doors, good size trunk, comfy, civilized, and able anytime and anywhere to get around the 10 under nannies and the left lane priuses that infest every goldern road. Geez I've put over 100k miles on this monster E55...

rslifkin
rslifkin UberDork
12/4/21 8:38 a.m.

Power is important.  I can't stand driving something underpowered on the street during high traffic times, particularly in areas with short highway merges.  Beyond that, at least half-decent gas mileage, comfy, relaxed enough to drive when I just need to get somewhere and am on a boring road, decent handling, working heat, A/C, and cruise control.  Oh, and it can't be boring. 

I think the dichotomy of boring is why I like the E38 as a DD so much.  You can very easily drive it like it's totally beige and the car won't fight you (beyond a bit of pull with the road crown when the summer tires are on), but if you push it a little bit, it becomes clear that the car is responsive, capable, and very much not beige. 

The Jeep was historically a pretty good DD, although as time went on, I think I made it less of a good one.  It became a bit more of a handful to live with as it got more modified, became a bit harder to drive, the front LSD made the steering feel weird, etc.  Although other than gas mileage, I think if I actually sat down and fixed everything that's wrong with it, it would be back to decent. 

petemc53555
petemc53555 New Reader
12/4/21 11:02 a.m.

Entertaining, reliable, cheapish to drive. Big enough for 4 folks to ride and for at least one to sleep in.

Honda Fit for now.

tremm
tremm Reader
12/4/21 1:30 p.m.

A Prius. /thread

james Kepford
james Kepford GRM+ Memberand New Reader
12/4/21 2:14 p.m.

After a lot of looking and thinking about that in the last year I settled on a 2022 Mach-E GT performance edition. It will perform well in the summer months and has all wheel drive for those 5 months or so when the weather is not so nice. What's not to like about a daily driver that  will do 0 to 60 in 3.5 seconds that you don't need to park half of the year. Beside I still have the answer to every thing in the garage..2002 fly'n miata turbo charged car. 

Traum
Traum New Reader
12/4/21 2:36 p.m.

1. reliability

2. low operating costs

3. some semblance of good handling

The combination has pretty much kept me in the small Japanese econobox category, and I am perfectly fine with that. Unfortunately, cars in that camp seems to be constantly disappearing from the market now...

RyanGreener (Forum Supporter)
RyanGreener (Forum Supporter) Reader
12/4/21 3:33 p.m.

For most people?
1) Reliability
2) Low Operating Cost
3) Versatility

So what most people really need is a hatchback, but they prefer to get the lifted hatchback known as a crossover because it comes with gimmicky and very situationally useful AWD.

For me?
1) Engaging
2) Reliable
3) Low Operating Cost

Yup, this is a tough one. I initially had a JCW Mini which was absolutely perfect. I sold it though because it didn't have the engagement I wanted...which was hydraulic steering and more old school technology so I'm on the hunt for whatever can replicate that again.

BlueInGreen - Jon
BlueInGreen - Jon UltraDork
12/4/21 3:39 p.m.

In reply to RyanGreener (Forum Supporter) :

Funny thing is, awd is often an expensive option on smaller cuvs. Many of the tall hatchbacks running around are just that: tall fwd hatchbacks.

KyAllroad
KyAllroad UltimaDork
12/4/21 3:47 p.m.

AWD station wagon with enough power to run a 14 second quarter, makes fun noises when pushed, and comfortable enough to go 1,000 miles in a day and not leave me feeling wiped out.   

RyanGreener (Forum Supporter)
RyanGreener (Forum Supporter) Reader
12/4/21 4:07 p.m.
BlueInGreen - Jon said:

In reply to RyanGreener (Forum Supporter) :

Funny thing is, awd is often an expensive option on smaller cuvs. Many of the tall hatchbacks running around are just that: tall fwd hatchbacks.

Yup, exactly! Every crossover is basically a lifted more expensive hatchback that gets worse fuel economy and has worse handling. I'm sure people who need a swiss army knife of a vehicle can appreciate crossovers though, but that's very few people (who take them softroading and whatnot).

Boost_Crazy
Boost_Crazy Dork
12/4/21 9:37 p.m.

In reply to KyAllroad :

 

AWD station wagon with enough power to run a 14 second quarter, makes fun noises when pushed, and comfortable enough to go 1,000 miles in a day and not leave me feeling wiped out.   

My favorite daily driver was my 2005 Subaru Legacy GT Wagon with a manual transmission. It was reliable for the first 140k mikes, plenty fast enough, comfortable, and flew under the radar. It did everything well. 
 

Duke
Duke MegaDork
12/4/21 9:56 p.m.
KyAllroad said:

AWD station wagon with enough power to run a 14 second quarter, makes fun noises when pushed, and comfortable enough to go 1,000 miles in a day and not leave me feeling wiped out.   

Yeah, that's my daily.

 

Furious_E (Forum Supporter)
Furious_E (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
12/4/21 10:30 p.m.

Needs to be reliable, comfortable, and cheap to operate, those are non negotiable. Manual is pretty much a requirement for me as well. Space isn't a huge concern in my situation, 99% of the time it's just me and a sandwich driving to work and I have a truck for hauling stuff when the need arises.
 

Beyond that, I try to live by the philosophy that life is too short for boring cars. What I tend to appreciate more than outright power in a DD is good handling and the little tactile things like a nice shifter or really good steering feel. My E36 and FRS both fit that model to a large extent and have been my favorite DDs to date.

BlindPirate
BlindPirate Reader
12/4/21 10:38 p.m.

Reliable, fun to drive, and nice but not too nice where you're not wanting to drive it so it won't get messed up

frenchyd
frenchyd UltimaDork
12/4/21 10:59 p.m.

In reply to Colin Wood :

While it's fun to jump into a small British sportscar. There are limits. Weather and capacity chief among them.  When I owned a Morris Minor Woodie ( traveler) the entry was easy, seat comfortable,  vision excellent,  it was nimble, easy to drive, carried 4 in comfort and got very decent fuel mileage.  Not to mention  carried a surprising amount and  very cute. 

Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter)
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
12/4/21 11:09 p.m.

For me, comfort is paramount. Followed be reliability and practicality. Fun-to-drive is nice to have, but I usually have a toy of some kind for that.

JThw8
JThw8 UltimaDork
12/4/21 11:41 p.m.

Honestly the answer to that is as varied as the definition of daily driving can be.  

When I commuted 70 miles each way each day in NJ highway traffic my weapons of choice were panther platforms or my fav was my Caddy ELR (fancy Volt)

Now that I commute 50 miles once a week, non highway, all back roads the answers are much different.  Did a CTS V for awhile, currently its a Hummer H2 because my other standard uses are more suited for its function.  But I dont mind "DDing" my Kei cars either in the current scenario.

Different strokes for different folks and too many variations on the use case.  So every answer is the right answer.

preach (dudeist priest)
preach (dudeist priest) GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/5/21 8:12 a.m.

I'm with KY and Duke.

Summer:

2007 Cayman S 6spd.

Winter:

2012 Golf R

 

Both are about 1:10 whp:pound, both get out of their own way. The Cayman has been across country 5 times, the R has only been on a 200mi one way trip. Both are very comfortable to drive distances. The Cayman has been 13.5 in the 1/4 and I have yet to get the R there. Both hold plenty of groceries or luggage.

Con: gas mileage and >$4/gal for premium. On my 17mi each way commute the Cayman averages about 21mpg and the R is less, both in part to how I drive them for sure. 

When a certain 70s styled EV pickup comes out I will think about buying a commuter daily driver but until then, no.

MrFancypants
MrFancypants Reader
12/5/21 9:01 a.m.

I don't need power so much as I need an engine that's fun to use, that isn't completely gutless. A lot of engines meet that requirement, with a well tuned turbo 4 with a punchy mid range being a good balance of power and efficiency.

Manual transmission because I like rowing gears at pedestrian speeds.

Smooth ride, as in not "buzzy", but I do prefer my suspension on the firm side.

Good *cloth* seats that are supportive with good bolstering and adjustable lumbar; Recaros not required, just decent sport seats.

Buttons, knobs, and switches for interior controls. Touch screens are fine for functions that aren't used on every drive.

Four or five doors now that I have kids.

At this time it looks like my best option is the Civic Si, maybe the Corolla GR when we get it. Used to be that the GTI/R was the perfect fit but the interior ergonomics are a complete disaster now. Four door Minis make my eyes bleed. The new 86 looks like I can forgive it's small back seat and squeeze my kids back there anyway.

Mr. Peabody
Mr. Peabody UltimaDork
12/5/21 10:03 a.m.

In reply to MrFancypants :

That describes the Elantra GT I drove a few weeks ago. I really liked the way it drove, and how revvy that 2.0L engine was. Sometimes you sit in a car and it just fits

 

rslifkin
rslifkin UberDork
12/5/21 10:13 a.m.

I missed a big criteria for me in my list earlier.  Not FWD.  I don't mind driving FWD cars, but I hate DD-ing them, especially in winter.  The inability to put down power well in a turn from a stop with most FWD cars drives me crazy.  And I can't stand FWD in snow, as accelerating shouldn't reduce your steering ability to near-zero. 

Mr. Peabody
Mr. Peabody UltimaDork
12/5/21 10:17 a.m.

It's almost like you guys didn't notice.

He asks what makes the perfect daily driver, then posts a pic of that nice big gold bowtie.

The answer was there all along!

stroker
stroker UberDork
12/5/21 10:20 a.m.
Captdownshift (Forum Supporter) said:

Minimum of 30mpg, 40+ even better. Enough utility to fit the occasional large item. Reliable enough to take for granted and easy enough to work on that when something does need attention that you're not trying to figure out how much it would cost a shop to do it. 

Plus inexpensive parts and low insurance.

 

MrFancypants
MrFancypants Reader
12/5/21 11:27 a.m.
Mr. Peabody said:

In reply to MrFancypants :

That describes the Elantra GT I drove a few weeks ago. I really liked the way it drove, and how revvy that 2.0L engine was. Sometimes you sit in a car and it just fits

 

Ooooh right, I forgot about the Hyundais. I bet the Elantra GT or Veloster N would be nice.

Growl_R
Growl_R New Reader
12/5/21 12:51 p.m.

Golf R - end of descussion :)

Ranger50
Ranger50 MegaDork
12/5/21 1:39 p.m.

Easy things like I go to start, you start. I stop, you stop. I go, you go. All the while, I don't have to work on you every week for "something ", nor thousands to make it drivable again reliably. I really don't care about mpgs because it's getting me places I need to go. Comfort? I like ac especially now living south of the Mason Dixon line. I don't require pleather or most of the safety nannies.

This is why I bought a new new car.

h2000wt
h2000wt New Reader
12/5/21 2:05 p.m.

What makes the best daily driver? Today I think the car (or truck if needed) has to be affordable, good looking, comfortable,  fun (enough), economical to run and have enough toys installed to keep you happy.  I also think it should have been made for a number of years as I believe that ends up a better (more reliable) car.  And since I'm in Florida, cloth seats help. 

In my case, I ended up most recently with a Challenger SXT.  It makes my wife happy and it did much better at VIR than I thought it would. Plus left car funds in the bank for that in progress toy that isn't a practical daily driver. 

Here's the thing.  When I was young, everything, from Europa, X1/9, Datsun 2000 (no top and winter) and all the different RX's were daily drivers. Maybe the best daily driver is the one that offers the most fun and the least practicality you can stand. 

trakktapedude
trakktapedude New Reader
12/5/21 2:11 p.m.

I think a big pivot is whether or not you get stuck in commuter traffic a lot. I have lived in Palm Springs, CA for a very long time and have never had a bad commute.

I had Miatas from when they first came out and for 18 years after. I am 6'3 and found the NA cars to be great on the open road. On center steering sensitivity is a big deal with Mazda and lack of it contributes a lot to mental tiredness.  I have had a Lotus Elise as my daily driver for 15 years now and still love it. A trip to Walmart is always a mini-GP.  I am never bored and am not saving the car for the weekend. Why should I?

As far as longer trips, about 300 miles is as far as I want to drive in a day, regardless of what I am in. On those trips, I try to avoid major roads, exactly the way that I avoid freeways when I am on a motorcycle. The Elise invigorates me in exactly the way a good motorcycle does. It is continually engaging me and I, never, for a moment, forget that I am driving it, exactly like a motorcycle. 

As I get older, I am sure that I may seek a bit more comfort, of course, but as right now, I am 75 and still needing my Elise. If it gets to the point I can't even get in it, then I will get something that is more practical.    

I have always liked manual shift 360 Ferraris. They are a good buy now and the Elise is going up. Yep, a nice yellow coupe should get me well into my eighties, I would think.  

Life is very , very short. Too short to drive boring cars. Merry Christmas everyone!

ProDarwin
ProDarwin MegaDork
12/5/21 2:35 p.m.

Reliable

Low operating costs

Utility

Fun

Not "nice" enough to worry about, but also not a rolling wreckage.  Have to be able to put my dog in it, or get it muddy, or throw some bulky items in the back without it stressing me out.

 

If I could build my own perfect daily, I would take a hot hatch body and give it a Bolt-like drivetrain, with a torsen, and maybe 50 more hp.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
12/5/21 3:02 p.m.

For me? 

Something like a Chevy SS, M5, 4-door AMG Merc of some flavor, Audi S5/7, etc. 

4 doors, good-sized trunk, quiet, comfy but with responsive handling, quick/fast, and able to gobble up highway miles. 

Toyman!
Toyman! GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/5/21 4:52 p.m.

Utility would be 1st on the list. Something I can climb in and do anything from a Lowes run to dinner in town, a job site visit to a camping trip in the woods, or a drive to the other side of the country to pick up some strange machine. That means I'm driving a truck of some description and it's going to be 4WD. The current Ridgeline is a perfect mix of car/truck.

Reliability. I don't want to put it in the shop for anything beyond routine maintenance. Ever. That's why I got rid of my Silverado. 

Automatic. I'm on the road in traffic too much to deal with a manual. 

Decent power. I don't want to be constantly flogging it to run with traffic. Slow car fast is not fun during rush hour. 

SafetyFast
SafetyFast New Reader
12/5/21 6:38 p.m.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

I find that a certain 01 Miata LS2 habu fits that requirement quite well!

MGS10
MGS10 New Reader
12/5/21 11:54 p.m.

It's my Honda Civic Sport hatch with a 6 speed.  Easy on fuel, practical, quick acceleration, handling good enough you can't find the limit on roads anywhere near the speed limit and comfortable.  If you were to rate it on its attributes except looks it would be a 7/10 at everything, just a good so around car.  I could find another car that was better at one or two things but at a cost to everything else

fasted58
fasted58 MegaDork
12/6/21 12:31 a.m.

Showing my progression to old guy status.

From S197, yea it was fun but became cumbersome driving in work boots. It became a toy.

335xi was awesome, even in winter with Altimax's. Normal BMW depreciation and adddded maintenance was killing it. Had to get out.

Traded for a '16 Regal AWD Premium II. Nicely laid out w/ creature comforts. Heated seats will roast yur ass out. Bose, blind spot mirrors etc , cruises nice on the interstate. Not a sleeper like the E92 but good enough, I'm over that. (I really wanted an AWD GS but none to be found)

I've retired since then but still love my Buick comforts. Have mid-sized 4x4 truck for deep snow... but then I don't really need to leave the yard if I don't want to.

 

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
12/6/21 1:27 a.m.

Enough room to haul the family, enough cargo room for camping, tailgating, moving car parts, getting a full pallet of mulch or soil, the ability to tow a car, and the ability to go off pavement without a care in the world.  Yah I'm a 4WD truck kinda guy.  Anything else just won't cut it based on all the different ways I drive each day.  
 

Now I'd love to have a 6 spd Chevy SS for pavement long trips and general musclecar mayhem.  It's even be awesome for going to work, but there is so much it can't do.

dxman92
dxman92 Dork
12/6/21 7:15 a.m.

Comfortable seats, good on the highway for 5 or 50 mile treks, good space, decent handling, space for hauling junk in the back, good shifter. Honda Fit gets my vote. I'm on my second now. First was an 07 sport and now I'm in a 17 base 6 speed.

stroker
stroker UberDork
12/6/21 7:37 a.m.

Okay, so what I'm hearing in all the previous equals Maserati BiTurbo....

 

cheeky

tuna55
tuna55 MegaDork
12/6/21 8:11 a.m.

Utter dependability, and lowest $/mile with modern safety standards and comfort. As I learned driving my 88 Accord 80 miles per day, it was cheap, but I felt like I was shell shocked at the end of a ride.

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
12/6/21 8:27 a.m.

It varies... which is why I have multiple cars.

When I worked in NJ, my commute involved a lot of back-roads through central NJ = "Deer Country".  It's not a matter of "if" you'll hit a deer, but "when".  I was lucky and only hit one, and it was a fawn, but it still did some damage.  So with that in mind, "expendable" was part of the DD criteria.  And comfortable. Reasonably fuel efficient.  And with decent cargo carrying ability.  "Fun" was on the list, but after awhile of driving the same roads day after day, making a non-sporty car try to do sporty things was more fun than driving a sporty car on roads that are only fun at "going to jail" speeds.

Then " secure cargo carrying" became a higher priority for me, so I gave up some of the above for a minivan.  And I honestly haven't looked back.  I still have some "fun" cars for when the urge hits.  The minivan is also tops on the "expendable" part.  If I get nailed in traffic on the PATP, I'll be irritated, but I can basically go to the local Enterprise surplus dealer and buy a duplicate of my current van the same day.

ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter)
ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter) HalfDork
12/6/21 10:27 a.m.

There are as many answers to this question as there are lifestyles and user requirements.  I only drive a few miles to work every day but it's combat driving in suburban Atlanta traffic, so a Sherman tank would probably be the best tool for the job.  The idea of peacefully eating up miles at interstate speeds on the way to work is a foreign concept to me.

ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter)
ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter) HalfDork
12/6/21 10:28 a.m.

There are as many answers to this question as there are lifestyles and user requirements.  I only drive a few miles to work every day but it's combat driving in suburban Atlanta traffic, so a Sherman tank would probably be the best tool for the job.  The idea of peacefully eating up miles at interstate speeds on the way to work is a foreign concept to me.

ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter)
ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter) HalfDork
12/6/21 10:28 a.m.

There are as many answers to this question as there are lifestyles and user requirements.  I only drive a few miles to work every day but it's combat driving in suburban Atlanta traffic, so a Sherman tank would probably be the best tool for the job.  The idea of peacefully eating up miles at interstate speeds on the way to work is a foreign concept to me.

Aaron_King
Aaron_King PowerDork
12/6/21 10:48 a.m.

Something that is entertaining enough, safe and comfortable.  In the last 20 years or so it has been some kind of turbo SAAB and I am really having a hard time coming up with something to replace my current 9-5 Aero when my oldest takes it.

Chris_V
Chris_V UberDork
12/6/21 11:02 a.m.

For me, over the last decade, the perfect daily is an EV. Never going to the gas station again, quiet, quick, reasonably comfortable, never having to warm it up or worry about short trips to the store damaging the engine, low operating costs. And for me, reasonably low buy-in cost for a practical hatchback that has all the safety features I want my family in.

Most cars I've owned that were engaging to drive were not good at the daily slog and not happy with say, a 5 minute round trip to the grocery store. I'll leave being engaging for the weekender/special occasion cars now. The Bolt is fun enough for daily use, even without a manual and with FWD.

twowheeled
twowheeled Reader
12/6/21 11:02 a.m.

Mine is simple, chassis of a Subaru outback power train of an RS3 with big wheel wells so I can fit some 16" high profile tires and smash thru potholes and bad pavement. Bonus points if I can get some offroad suspension aftermarket. 

300zxfreak
300zxfreak Reader
12/6/21 3:46 p.m.

 This is the ultimate DD. I've auditioned many of the above mentioned vehicles, and this is THE DD......

cyow5
cyow5 Reader
12/6/21 9:14 p.m.

E91 manual with only RWD has been a surprise hit for me. I'm in the south, so AWD is just a waste of mass and is just more opportunities for parts to break. I lived in Michigan for a bit and would argue that winter tires >> AWD, but I'll skip that debate for now. For me in the south, it's easily a waste. 

No turbos, no DI, no transmission computer to deal with, yet modern enough to check most "nice" boxes. For  a few hundred bucks, I have CarPlay and Bluetooth, and it's a wagon. Suspension was getting some age on it, so now I have M3 control arms and adjustable coilovers. Only box it doesn't check for me is towing, but a tow rig and DD are going to have narrow overlap. The last thing I want to do is commute in a 5,000lb box because it *might* pull a trailer if I ever finish my Lotus...

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
12/7/21 9:52 a.m.

In reply to ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter) :

Atlanta driving is definitely it's own special kind of thing.

Saabstory97
Saabstory97 GRM+ Memberand New Reader
12/7/21 11:50 a.m.

For me its gonna be 1) Entertaining/fun to drive. I can't drive a boring car everyday. 2) Practical, must be able to transport 4 full size adults, and preferrably a hatchback for putting things in. 3) Reasonably efficient. 30 MPG has been my benchmark. 4) Modern - I like my android auto and modern safety standards.

I currently drive a Veloster N, which is currently my dual-duty (and only) car.

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gardnpc New Reader
12/7/21 9:26 p.m.

I'm daily driving a 3rd gen Tacoma with a Procharger.  Dead nuts reliable with great practicality that comes with a pickup.  It's also got enough beans to be entertaining when needed.  Have surprised more than a few unsuspecting diesel trucks rolling coal.  By the time they hear the faint whine, I'm gone.  

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