What’s your ultimate EV?

Colin
By Colin Wood
Sep 26, 2022 | electric, Electric Cars, ev, Discussion

Does everyone really need the ability to hit highway speeds in less than 3 seconds? What if you could trade some acceleration for range? Or maybe add in some lightness? 

If you could design the perfect EV for you, what would it look like?

Would it be as big as the new Hummer or smaller than the Ioniq 5? Luxurious with all the bells and whistles, or do you prefer a more Spartan experience? Electric Miata? 

Whatever it looks like, we’d love to hear your thoughts. (And yes, crudely drawn concepts are welcome here, too.)  

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Comments
Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
9/23/22 10:30 a.m.

Trick question, the real answer is Citicar:

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/23/22 10:34 a.m.

Would be willing to trade some acceleration for lightness, it would have to be AWD for sure - EV torque is too much to be bottlenecked by 2 wheels. Basically I'm thinking something like an electric Celica (but with something more like a Lotus Evora profile). Individual wheel-motors in the front, one larger motor in the rear running through a shiftable transaxle for fun and improved high-speed performance. Maybe small individual wheel-motors geared to the rear axle shafts as well for improved traction?

A smaller battery with a generator-cart utility trailer could give it good range and ensure that you always reach the track with a full charge without having to haul a lot of excess equipment around.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
9/23/22 10:35 a.m.

Something around the size of a Honda Element with the fold up seats, flat rubber floor and at least a 3500lb towing capacity.

Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
9/23/22 10:36 a.m.
GameboyRMH said:

A smaller battery with a generator-cart utility trailer could give it good range and ensure that you always reach the track with a full charge without having to haul a lot of excess equipment around.

I like the idea of an OEM selling something like that as a dealer-installed accessory.

Heck, maybe you could even rent one from U-Haul. 

bruceman
bruceman Reader
9/23/22 10:39 a.m.

For me it would be an SUV capable of towing the racecar to the track.

Toyman!
Toyman! GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/23/22 10:41 a.m.

I would love for Ford to build a Lightning with an extended cab, 8' bed, 10-second 0-60, and a 500-mile range. Strip it down, white, vinyl, minimal options. Instead, they are building a sub 5 second terror with a crew cab and not enough bed to work out of. Build me a damn service truck, not a drag truck. That's where electrics will shine. 

bruceman
bruceman Reader
9/23/22 10:58 a.m.

For me it would be an SUV capable of towing the racecar to the track.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/23/22 10:59 a.m.

In reply to Toyman! :

Remember that the drag truck is the side effect of a long range truck. Those big batteries can discharge faster, so you accidentally get ridiculous performance. If you built a 500 mile range F150 that could only do a 10 second 0-60, that's because it has very low power motors which I suspect you don't want because then that 8' bed would have to stay empty.

yupididit
yupididit GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
9/23/22 11:00 a.m.

Does the capability to go 0-100 in 5 seconds really decrease overall range? I thought that was just a byproduct of the capabilities of the installed parts and in fact not a trade-off to range capability. 

 

And GRM-folk dream EV would be able to tow 9k lbs for 500 miles without recharging while costing under $30k. 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/23/22 11:01 a.m.
Colin Wood said:
GameboyRMH said:

A smaller battery with a generator-cart utility trailer could give it good range and ensure that you always reach the track with a full charge without having to haul a lot of excess equipment around.

I like the idea of an OEM selling something like that as a dealer-installed accessory.

Heck, maybe you could even rent one from U-Haul. 

The fun part here is how to get power from the trailer to the car, especially some random car.

Better would be self-propelled trailer, but then you'd have to standardize on the communication protocol. Not insurmountable but necessary.

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