Is the Vitour Tempesta P1 today’s must-have 200tw tire?

Andy
By Andy Hollis
Nov 6, 2023 | Tire Test, 200tw, Vitour Tempesta P1, Vitour | Posted in Features | Never miss an article

Photography Credit: Andy Hollis

Who wouldn’t want a competition tire that provides the full Unfair Advantage–something wider, stickier and, ultimately, faster than the rest of the field?

Earlier this year, we heard rumblings of such a tire: a breakout 200tw model, one that would push the limits of motorsports rules restrictions and be available in some unique sizes.

A comparison photo circulated online further whetted our …

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Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
11/6/23 9:38 a.m.

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ztnedman1
ztnedman1 Reader
11/6/23 11:08 a.m.

O boy...this will get interesting lol

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/6/23 12:11 p.m.

Hm.  I remember the discussions about this 15 years ago and the predictions that someone would make "cheater tires", or even the suggestion that Hoosier could just make their normal tires with "200" molded on the side.  The response was that if this happened then SCCA would have a tire exclusion list.

So... does this P1 get to be the first tire on that list? :)

 

DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) UltimaDork
11/6/23 12:32 p.m.

Good info in this article, and it gives me things to think about. If a 245 is pinched on a 9" rim, then my 10" Bassettts should be perfect with a 245 tire. But I can find 275 Hoosier take-offs, or get 285 Vitours if I feel like throwing money at a Challenge car, and both choices will exhibit some pinching ,no doubt. Things to mull over while the car is being finished........

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
11/6/23 12:39 p.m.

This tire really seems to exist on a risk/reward curve. Yes, it's fast. But can you rely on being able to get them when you need them? Will the importer's troubled history with multiple sanctioning bodies be an issue? Will limited supply mean tire hoarding? Is any of their production scalable?

The speed is impressive, but, man, there's a LOT of variables in play here.

 

gumby
gumby GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/6/23 12:44 p.m.

In reply to JG Pasterjak :

Replace "importer" with "manufacturer" and your questions could easily be applied to Hoosier smiley

malibuguy
malibuguy GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
11/6/23 1:37 p.m.

I would consider trying a set if they were not in these odd short 15" sizes.

Gimme some 195/55, 205/50 or 225/45

Andy Hollis
Andy Hollis
11/6/23 2:20 p.m.
gumby said:

In reply to JG Pasterjak :

Replace "importer" with "manufacturer" and your questions could easily be applied to Hoosier smiley

Not any more.

Hoosier is now part of Continental, which brings with it a whole host of internal requirements for any tire that is built and sold to the public.  In fact, the 200tw tire that Hoosier was developing five or so years ago was scrapped when Conti bought them and handed them that list of requirements.

It wasn't until a few years later that Conti Germany, who is plenty experienced with building street tires to those specs and those of the EU and US DOT,  dusted off that design and built the tire (Extreme Contact Force).  It is was more Conti than Hoosier, though.  About the only Hoosier left in it is the basic compound... it is a derivative of the R7 rubber.

BDG
BDG GRM+ Memberand New Reader
11/6/23 3:32 p.m.

Can Valafar get banned without even driving this time?

Will be interesting to see.

thashane
thashane GRM+ Memberand Reader
11/6/23 3:53 p.m.

A052s were pretty unobtainium before the RE-71RS came out. Atleast in the sizes I was shopping. These are about $20 less a tire than A052s in 235/40/18s. Also a pretty nice contingency if you win class at Nats. Wonder if this will be the new hot rear tire for "mixed" fwd setups

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